Course: Psychology 459, Spring 2007, Generation 26
Instructor: Dr. Leon James
Introduction to Theistic Psychology at www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/theistic/ch1.htm
My Home Page: www.soc.hawaii.edu/leon/459s2007/bryan/bryan-home.htm
Class Home Page: www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/leonj/leonpsy26/classhome-g26.htm
Instructions for this Report: www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/leonj/leonpsy26/459-g26-weekly.htm
Final Revelations
by Kyle Bryan
Report 5 For Section
1.5.1 to 1.7
I am answering Questions 11.4, 11.5, 11.6, 11.9 and 13.3, 13.6, 13.7, 13.9
Question 11.4
a. Section
1.5.1.3 also contains a "narrative account" in which there is a
discussion with angels about what people on earth know about heaven and hell.
What is your impression of this?
b. Give an interpretation of the account as best you can at this point in your
study of theistic psychology.
My answer to Question 11.4
a.
Section
1.5.1.3 also contains a "narrative account" in which there is a
discussion with angels about what people on earth know about heaven and hell.
What is your impression of this?
Quotations from Sacred Scripture
a. My impression of the narrative is that it was an easy read. I think what
made it an easy read was because I understood the concepts that were discussed
by the angels and Swedenborg. I think that a person who didn’t study Theistic
Psychology might not be able to take away the same amount of knowledge from the
readings as opposed to someone familiar with the concepts. I see this as a draw back to the narrative.
I noticed some interesting things about the reading. I noticed that the angels knew nothing about
life on earth but I thought angels were once humans in the physical world? After thinking about this I realized that it
was because the angels were not
living in their natural minds but in their celestial mind which didn’t know
about the physical world. I
found it funny that Swedenborg was talking about the knowledge he was writing
about himself. The narrative ends with Swedenborg not performing miracles in
front of humans, who I am guessing are in the physical world although it
doesn’t say. The narrative talks about a
voice coming from above telling him not to perform a miracle but I remember in
class we talked about a time when Swedenborg told any old lady about some
documents that her late husband had hid somewhere. Swedenborg talked to the man
in the mental world. This contradiction confused me because I
see this as a miracle.
b. Give an
interpretation of the account as best you can at this point in your study of
theistic psychology.
Looking at the narrative from the
eyes of an enlightened
b. The account does not say that it is Swedenborg who is the one who is
speaking with the angels, but I am guessing it is since it is from his
writings. Swedenborg is taken into the
sprit world and is asked by the angels what is happening on earth. Swedenborg tells them that humankind has just
received knowledge greater than ever before. This knowledge is the knowledge of
the Laws of Correspondence. The angels
were surprised to learn that humans didn’t know of this. Next he told the
angels that the truth about life after death has been revealed to the human in
the physical world. This means that the
knowledge of the mental world and the mind have been told to humans. The previous sacred scripture didn’t talk
about the afterlife. the angels were again surprised
by this but Swedenborg talks about what mankind did think, which was that there
was an afterlife but the details of it were a little off, mankind didn’t know
of the difference between mental and physical substances and that humans
thought that after death our souls would float around like the wind. Next the
angels ask about humankind’s knowledge of heaven and hell. Swedenborg replies
by explaining that humans only knew about heaven and hell from previous Sacred
Scripture, and now humans knew about the Spiritual Sun and the different levels
of heaven and hell. Next the angels
noticed that Swedenborg was saddened because the knowledge that was given to
humans was not taken as truth but as untrue.
This remark confused the angels. Next Swedenborg talked about conjugial love and how it was now known to mankind. The
narrative ends with Swedenborg talking to people in the physical world, I am
guessing. They ask him to do miracles and he replied by telling them that he
will do it if they with follow the word of god. They tell him that they will
follow the word. Before Swedenborg does anything he hears something coming from
heaven saying that any miracle that is performed will not make anymore
difference in the world than the miracles that have happened in the past.
Question 11.5
a. Summarize
what is said in Section 1.6 "Spiritual Psychobiology."
b. How does this relate to what you already know about the field of psychology?
My answer to
Question 11.5
a.
Summarize what is said in Section 1.6 "Spiritual Psychobiology."
Mind-Body Connections
a. Section 1.6 talks about many different things but I think
that the most important part of the
section is about how Swedenborg defined the different organs. Swedenborg explains that the mental body is
connected to the physical body through different organs that work through
correspondences. The mental organs that
affect our behavior on earth are the mental affective organ, cognitive organ,
and sensorimotor organ. Swedenborg explained that the cause of any
action in the physical world is linked to our will and thinking, which
correspondences to our affective and cognitive organs, and is acted out by the
body which is connected to the sensorimotor organ.
This is Swendeborg’s frame work for psychology and he
published this knowledge in 1742 and the title of the book was rational psychology.
The Will and
Understanding that Swedenborg talks about are substances that are found in the
mental organs in the mental world.
This is a unique part of the psychobiology of Swedenborg and this is one
of the main concepts that separates Swedenborg’s
psychology from that of mainstream psychological thought.
The section also contained autobiographical letters about
Swedenborg’s dual conscious and life in the physical world. The section also talked
about the anatomy of the spiritual world which is in the shape of a human. One
interesting thing I noticed is that the section mentioned famous writers and
thinkers who have said that they have read Swedenborg but that no scientist have said that they have read him. I don’t know if
this fact is good for Swedenborg because it shows that his theory is more valid
or if it takes validation away from the theory.
b.
How does this relate to what you already know about the field of psychology?
Pioneer in Psychology
b. I think that
from reading and studying Theistic Psychology, I can see that Swedenborg did
created a type of psychological theory which does look into causal
relationships of behavior and ideas of the mind. It is interesting to see that these concepts are similar to those of
Freud and the like, but predating any of them. The ego, id and superego
are similar to the concepts of the mental organs.
Organicity theory is something
that today is a major part of science and psychology. We think of Organicity
when thinking about the physical body especially when we look at the brain.
Swedenborg’s theory also, I think, can be seen as a type of behaviorism because
it gives a framework for no only the cause of behaviors but also a method of
changing behavior.
These concepts are important to point out because it shows
that Swedenborg’s theory can have a practical application, and that Swedenborg was truly ahead of the time with regards
to psychological thought. On the other hand, I think that this does not
mean that Swedenborg should not be suspect to claims about the validity of his
theory. I think that I look at
Swedenborg’s concepts with the same skepticism that I do when looking at Freud,
religious thought and philosophical thought.
Modern psychology has its problems with regards to finding a
theory that can explain everything and I think that Theistic Psychology has
problems also. I think that the
repeatable, observable data aspect leads to skeptic thinking along with the
fact that the negative bias has to be assumed when looking at the data.
Although I do look at Theistic Psychology with skeptic
thinking similar to other ways of thinking I do see the benefit from thinking
about life from this perspective.
Question 11.6
a. Study Section 1.6.1 "Three Levels
of Behavior." Based on that discussion, and your own limited knowledge of
the field, explain the major differences between non-theistic psychology and
theistic psychology. You can also consult other Sections, e.g., Section 2.3 "Is
theistic psychology really science?" at www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/theistic/ch2.htm#Q2
My answer to Question 11.6
a. Study
Section 1.6.1 "Three Levels of Behavior." Based on that discussion,
and your own limited knowledge of the field, explain the major differences
between non-theistic psychology and theistic psychology. You can also consult
other Sections, e.g., Section 2.3 "Is theistic psychology really
science?" at www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/theistic/ch2.htm#Q2
Similarities in non theistic thought
a. Section 1.6.1 discusses the
three levels of behavior, which are the affective, cognitive and sensorimotor levels. Both non-theistic and theistic psychology
incorporate the three levels into their theories and both trains of thought see
each level as having a similar function.
The affective level of behavior corresponds to our feeling or our will to
act in a certain way. The cognitive
level is our understanding of how to actualize our feelings. The sensorimotor level is our body physical acting out our will
by using our understanding.
I think that although the two types of psychology both include the three
levels, the basic elements are different.
Non-theistic psychology sees the affective and cognitive as being of the
brain, which is the part of us that “seems to be” the self. Theistic Psychology
sees these levels to be real substances and not epiphenomenon. This aspect of will and understanding are
seen as being products of the individual’s culture, social situation,
education, and environment. If change is
wanted than the approach is to change these aspects of the self.
Theistic psychology views our will
and understanding to be on a continuum of sorts, with the pro-social and best
way being called a heavenly trait and the opposite end being called hellish and
any change must come from our understanding of this way of thinking.
This leads me to the next difference that I see in the two psychological
thoughts, which is this concept of heaven and hell in the mind.
Theistic psychology sees all behavior as coming from the continuum of
heavenly and hellish traits. Behavior is
seen as a person who is grounded in a way of thinking that leads to a level of
acting. A person who is knowledgeable in theistic psychology can look at their
behavior and understand how their behavior fits onto the scale of traits. Theistic Psychology also believes that all of
this understanding is in the mind. We
know about heaven and hell before we even act out at these levels.
Non Theistic Psychology does not
hold on to the view that behavior stems for an inner understanding of right and
wrong. This knowledge of right and wrong
is thought to come to humans from a few other ways, mostly from social
learning, unconscious needs and feelings
and biological aspects of the body.
Any activity that is seen as being maladaptive is thought to be not because
a person is stuck in a certain hellish mode of thinking but because they see
the world in this way or because of another sometimes physical component such
as the brain being the cause.
From this perspective, behavior can be changed by changing the way we learn
or by changing our brain chemistry by using drugs.
Question 11.9
a. Discuss
your perceptions of how other students in this class (G26) are adjusting
intellectually to the positive bias perspective.
b. Read some of their reports. Do the reports show the same thing as the class
discussions?
c. How do you stand relative to others?
My answer to Question 11.9
a. Discuss
your perceptions of how other students in this class (G26) are adjusting
intellectually to the positive bias perspective
Generation 26
a. I think that the other students
in class are adjusting to the knowledge of the positive bias in a similar way
that I am. Recently I have been
more conscious of the positive bias in my daily activities but I still think in
a negative bias way for the most part.
From talking to other is the class, I get the feeling that they too are able
to understand the concepts similarly to me and like myself, they are still
using the negative bias in daily life. I
see in other classmates and myself a feeling of skeptic thinking about the
validity of the concepts and I can also see an ability to understand the
rational behind ideas that are presented in class.
I think that it is important to be skeptical of knowledge and being careful
when being introduced with new knowledge is something that an educated person
should always do.
In class, I sometimes am confused when we talk about certain aspects of the
material and I know from talking to others that they feel the same way. although I might question the point of the
knowledge and how I can apply the knowledge to my own life when I am in class,
I do think about what I have learned and I feel that most others in the class
do the same especially since to write the reports we must be able to think
critically about the material.
b. Read some
of their reports. Do the reports show the same thing as the class discussions?
Reports from others
b. I think that the reports for the most part are consistent with the
lecture, all of students seem to be trying to understand the material and then
to internalize it into their own mind. personally when I am writing the reports I try to understand
the material in a way that it fits into my life. I do this because if the
knowledge is supposed to be knowledge that is universal then it should be able
to have some meaning to me.
When I don’t fully agree with the
information in the reading, I still try to understand it and I try to make my
point understood. I can see this similar pattern in the other papers.
I think that we try to understand and reason with the knowledge that we are
being presented with in the class.
c. How do you
stand relative to others?
My Rational level of thinking
c. From the writings I see that my classmates and I all have the ability to
understand the material but are at different levels of willingness to take in
the information and apply it. I think that from the times when I talk to other
in the class I get that we all have doubt about what we are learning.
So I think with regard to
accepting theistic psychology as a science I fall around the same area as most
in the class because I get the impression that most in class are not totally
convinced that theistic psychology is a science.
I do, however, see theistic psychology helpful with social issues and I
think that I might be higher up than others with regards to this feeling. I see theistic psychology as a way of
thinking about life and how one should live.
I think that others in class get this from their particular religion and
also from other aspects of life such as family.
Question 13.3
a. What is the organic basis of human
thoughts, emotions, and feelings?
b. Contrast this with the negative bias psychology which "reduces"
thoughts and feelings to electricity and chemistry in the neurons of the brain.
c. What is your view on this controversy?
My answer to Question 13.3
a. What is the organic basis of human thoughts, emotions, and feelings?
Mental substances and organs
a. In Theistic
Psychology all thoughts, emotions, and feelings have an organic base,
which are in the mental organs in the spiritual body in eternity. In order for any form of science to have any
creditability, it must hold on to some characteristics that will validate the
information. One of the criteria that
any science must have is called Organicity. Organicity states
that any proposed theory must be biologically grounded. An example from anatomy, we know that blood
circulates around the body allowing our physical organs to function. The function of blood circulating around the
body is part of science because the heart grounds this function.
Another example dealing with computers shows how the concept
works. Computers need parts to function. A computer needs a mother board,
processor and memory card or else it cannot hold on to information or express
other functions that computers can do. I
idea in theistic psychology is that in order for our thoughts, feelings, and
other emotions to function like everything else in science, there needs to be a
structure that can do this function.
Thoughts and feelings are believed to be creations of the
higher consciousness that the human brain produces in negative bias
science. Organicity
allows theistic psychology to still be able to have validation even if the
mental organs that contain all thoughts, feelings and other mental properties are
not able to be felt by the senses in the physical world of time and space.
b.
Contrast this with the negative bias psychology which "reduces"
thoughts and feelings to electricity and chemistry in the neurons of the brain
There is no self
b. In the positive bias of science, substantive dualism
holds the concept of organicity as scientific
validation of Theistic Psychology.
Substantive Dualism states that the reality of our world is that we are
dual citizens in two worlds the physical world of time and space and the mental
world of eternity which is comprised of mental substance. The mental substances are where our emotions,
thoughts and feelings are. The positive
bias in science validates that our thoughts and feelings are real and made of
mental substances and not created by the brain.
The negative bias in science is at the other end of the
spectrum. The negative bias in science
states that all emotions, thoughts and feelings are the function of parts of
the brain and are not real substances but only results experienced by us
because of the brain. My thoughts have
no substance to them. The negative bias
in science accepts that emotions and thoughts have an effect on the physical
world but do not have any “real” component to them. This view is also called the materialistic
view in science or monism which is the denial of the mental world and mental
substances.
c.
What is your view on this controversy?
What is real?
c. My view on whether my thoughts and feelings are real
substances is that because the “experience” of joy or sadness or my thinking process is such a strong
feeling, it leads me to agree with the concept of the positive bias on
a purely philosophical level. Although I feel this way about my feelings, I am
still rooted in the negative bias because of my education. I don’t feel that by accepting the negative
bias it downplays our ideas of self because expression of a thought which might
not be “real” with regards to substance can translate abstractions into a real
substance here in the physical world.
This leads me to believe in the reality of my self even in negative bias
thinking.
Question 13.6.
a.
Section 1.6.8
discusses how Divine Speech inflows into the mental world by levels, and each
level is lower in rationality than the level above it, until it reaches the
natural level of Sacred Scripture in a natural language. Describe this process
in your own words, as if you were giving a speech about it to people interested
in spirituality.
My answer to Question 13.6
a.
Section 1.6.8
discusses how Divine Speech inflows into the mental world by levels, and each
level is lower in rationality than the level above it, until it reaches the
natural level of Sacred Scripture in a natural language. Describe this process
in your own words, as if you were giving a speech about it to people interested
in spirituality.
Sacred scripture as physical evidence
a. Sacred Scripture through out
history has been rationalized at many different levels. these levels of
rationalization have through out history been built on top of one another by
god in different ways. All humans in
their life time are able to rise in understanding the meanings of the
writing. The level of rational that we
thinking in are related to the level of heaven with in our mind that we choose
to think in. in
other words the higher up we choose to rationalize sacred scripture in leads us
to a higher level of heaven in our minds and the lowest level of thinking can
leave us in a rational which is in the hell of our mind.
As I said earlier, through out history, humans have been able to rise in
rational with the increase of sacred scripture.
The lowest level of thinking began during the period where the
underlying meanings or the hidden correspondences of the old
testament are being written. At this level the correspondences are at a
natural-corporeal level, which means all meaning within sacred scripture is
valued at the natural level. God is seen
as an operation of the physical world not part of the mental world. this level of old
testament thinking holds on to some false rational like the idea that god can
be vengeful but raises our rational because it starts our understanding about
the reality that god controls the physical world.
Level two is the new testament mentality which holds on to a natural-sensuous
rational of thinking. This level of thinking about God is higher
because god is seen as internal and as a divine human. This concept of the
divine human is at a greater rational than level one which holds on the idea
that God is external from us. At this
level a person can rationalize that god is all powerful and perfectly divine in
good and truth taking away any vengeful aspects thought about at level one.
The third level of thinking was given to humans with the appearance of the
writings of Swedenborg after the scientific revolution. This level of thinking
is at the natural rational correspondences because the writings show that God
is a divine human who is in the mind and forms all aspect of the mind and the
physical world through layers of correspondences. The writings lead to a rational that can
conceptualize the ideas of our dual citizenship in the worlds of physical and
mental. The writings explain the ideas of rational substances of good and truth
and how they control the functions of the world.
The next three levels of rational
are all sub-levels of theistic psychology. at
this level we rationalize at an even higher level of thinking if we were to
stay at the other three levels of thinking. At this level of thinking we are
able to understand the correspondences that are hidden in the different sacred
scripture. This level of thinking is at the spiritual-natural level because the
correspondences between the physical world and the spiritual world are
recognized.
The two highest level of consciousness are still higher than level 4 but are
at the unconscious level of the mind.
This part of the mind can be awoken and we can be in this state only
after we die in the mental world. The
level are closer to God and the truth which means within the make up of the
world puts these levels at a discrete level inward. Another name for level five and six is the
second and third heavens.
Question 13.7.
a.
Discuss the 6
"Levels of Rational Mentality" in Section 1.6.8. Can you comprehend these
levels of thinking about God?
My answer to Question 13.7
a.
Discuss the 6
"Levels of Rational Mentality" in Section 1.6.8. Can you comprehend
these levels of thinking about God?
Rational about God
a. The levels of rational mentality
have to do with a person’s understanding about the nature of this world and the
reality of God and the human mind.
Of course the base of all rational of Theistic Psychology is the
positive bias in science. From this
mental state a person is able to rationalize at different levels of thinking
about our mentality. Each level of
thinking is at a discrete level higher to the truth, which the divine human
sends out in the world and allows the world to function.
When taking the positive bias, and accepting that the writings of the old and new testament, and the
writings of Swedenborg are sacred scripture which is God’s word descended down
the layers of the mind to reality, it is possible for me to rationalize on the
lower four levels of thinking. The
highest two are unreachable while I am living in the physical world and cannot
be reached until I reach the world of eternity and my spiritual mind is awoken.
I can see how each level is more rational then the next. For example the writings of Swedenborg
explain that we live in a dual universe. To think about this we must first hold
on to truths that are understandable at the lower levels. all
people cannot understand levels of rational when they are stuck at lower
levels. for
instance, when you are at level one dual citizenship is incomprehensible
because the mental world is incomprehensible.
Only after the realization that god is not in the physical world because
he created this world and cannot be part
of what he created and that God is within the mental world which we all have
within us can a human be able to rationalize the concept of our dual
citizenship. The rational need to
thinking at these levels are available to use in the old, new
testament and writings produced by Swedenborg.
I rationalize this chart by relating it to the
concept that the levels of thinking about God are connected together by laws of
correspondence going inward, in order to rationalize at any level a
person must have master the levels of thinking below that level. the levels are like building blocks that humans can take
from the meaning of different sacred scripture and build up their ability to
think and rationalize about the truth to the world, God and our existence. This fact can explain that God allows all
knowledge that he wants to be expressed to human is available to all in the
physical writings and the appropriate levels of the mind capable of accepting
the truth.
This theory can explain how all humans are capable of gaining entrance into
the higher levels of the mind called the upper heavens.
On fact about this chart, which is similar to many other aspects of theistic
psychology is that once the assumed concepts, which cannot be disproved and
cannot be proven, are rejected the theory loses most of its scientific validity,
which can be seen as a flaw to the theory.
Question 13.9
a. Why is it
important for God to talk to or communicate with human beings?
b. What does God intend to talk to us about? Why?
c. How does God talk to us or communicate with us?
d. Is there anything relevant you'd like to say about your relationship to your
conscience and to Sacred Scripture?
My answer to Question 13.9
a. Why is it
important for God to talk to or communicate with human beings?
Communications
a. The importance of what is communicated to use by God is the character
reformation aspect of the communication, which can lead each human to reach
the highest level of thinking and to the best possible life in eternity. If God didn’t communicate with us we would
not have examples of truth written in sacred writings. We would not have the inner conscious which
helps us in our daily lives to make decisions about morality and purpose.
Take away the communication and we are left as irrational creatures that are
not different than animals. Humans would
have a rational level of the mind but would not be able to use it. the knowledge that
God gives to use allows humans to lead an altruistic life in the heavens of the
mind. without
Gods guidance to keep us in check through our conscious and sacred writings the
possibility for humans to simply live a life of heavenly traits will be
lowered.
b. What does
God intend to talk to us about? Why?
God’s love
b. The intention of Sacred Scripture can be used at different levels of
rational. With the recent level of
Theistic Psychology and the writings of Swedenborg giving humans a still higher
level of rational, we are able to receive the intended message of the writings
at different levels. Even if someone
cannot rationalize about the concepts about god shown in the writings of
Swedenborg, truth is still there for the person to grasp at the literal level.
All levels of Scared scripture lead to a better
lifestyle. When we learn from the
writings of Sacred Scripture and also from our own inner connection with god
called conscious, we become more human and are able to live better in our
heavenly traits and caste off our hellish traits. This is the main intention of what God is
trying to explain, to live in your heavenly traits and not in your hellish traits. Be
altruistic and not selfish. God wants as
many humans to be able to live in their heavens.
c. How does
God talk to us or communicate with us?
Two ways of Communicating with God
c. God communicates with humans in two different ways, sacred scripture and
also our inner conscious. Sacred
Scripture is the external, physical evidence that God communicates with us. It
allows humans to see the knowledge of the divine human in our natural
languages. An example would be the story
of Moses and the ten commandments. In the story God gives to the people rules to
live by. When people read this story
they are reading a physical description of the right way to live life given to
us through the layers of the mind into the physical world as a story.
The other way that God communicates with us is through our conscious, which
is a mental communication with god. it is through this connection with god and the way that our
mental organs function that the truth is shown to us. Our mental organs are how we rationalize with
our conscious and the organs are kept functioning by god and his mental
substances of good and truth.
d. Is there
anything relevant you'd like to say about your relationship to your conscience
and to Sacred Scripture?
Relationships to my inner thought
d. I do not read scared scripture often enough to be able to say that the
meaning behind most of the writings is rationalized by me. I do know some aspects of the old and new testaments
but at a very elementary level. although I don’t study
the writings, we have discussed in lecture that the knowledge is still shown to
others by way of social practices that are common in our society. This makes me happy to learn that I still gain
some knowledge about how to live in my heavenly traits even though I don’t read
the bible regularly.
with regards to my conscience, I believe that I use
my conscious most of the day, but I am sure that my hellish traits come in and
cloud this judgment which leads to many missteps. I am relaxed with the knowledge that my
conscious is a product of my connection with God and makes me happy knowing
that I can rely on my inner voice to guide me in the right direction in
life. My goal is to distinguish the
difference between my conscious and temptations to do wrong.