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What Are They Saying
By: Jayson Nakasone 
Spy 409b/Fall 98/G10
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Lane Fly MrKablooey Daniel J Stern Drew Boils michaels@thesolutioncenter.com
kingsnake Mr. Fun Rexven OOOO Alan J. Claffie

 



Subject: trolling cop
From:vortexic@mediaone.net (Lane Flynn )
Date:Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:27:17 -0400
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving

Argh! On my way home today, I noticed an unmarked police car right behind me (easy to spot in GA as they are Ford Crown Vic's with the state flag front license plate). He came up behind me at a stoplight, and I recognized
him immediately. I drove about 1/2 mile to my turn at exactly 55, and the whole time the cop was <1 sec. away from me. I made my right turn, and then an immediate left onto the road I live off of, and the cop followed me. The
limit on this road is 35, so I tried to stay there, but it's ridiculously slow for the road/conditions, so I edged up to about 40. The cop is riding my rear bumper and staring right at my mirror, even though I'm going OVER
the limit. Finally I just turned off at the first road I saw, and he doesn't follow me. It seemed to me that the cop was forcing speeders; if you're below his comfort speed he tailgates you and if you're above it he tickets you. What a guessing game. Was he just in a hurry or actively trolling for victims? Has this happened to anyone else?
 

    It seems like there is an abuse of power from officers all over. I believe that this happens on a daily basis to people around the world.  It's a shame that such people have the power to abuse and invade our rights. This happened to me on two occasions and it's a stressful situation.  Driving along on the brink of getting a ticket and figuring out how to pay for it and the list goes on and on.  One was actually helpful because he did stop me because my registration had expired on my aunt's car.  He didn't give me a ticket, but helped my aunt and I out on getting a ticket with the next officer.
 

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: mrkablooey@kablooey.com (MrKablooey© )
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:35:48 -0400
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: Verio Mid-Atlantic

    That's a case where going 32-35 mph would have been a blast just to keep the arrogant asswipe fuming.

    This person seems to be enraged with the actions of this officer.  If the officer does tailgate for no reason but harassment, then this person has a right to me angry.  I do agree with this man too.  If the officer was tailgating the person and in a hurry, following the legal speed limit would turn the officer's harassment on himself.  This could actually teach the officer to evaluate his morals and the oath he took as an officer.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: dastern@ftp.japan.com (Daniel J Stern )
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:26:33 -0400
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization:
 

I disagree. Speed limit =3D MAXIMUM permissible speed. Accepting statutory minimum speeds if any are applicable, special conditions may dictate driving SLOWER than the posted limit--even ask a cop. It sounds as though the cop in question was generating a special condition in which driving 18mph would have been arranted. Also coming to COMPLETE stops at all stop signs and counting to 3 before proceeding away from the stop sign in a cautious and conservative manner...
--Daniel
 
 

    This brings up a good point with the intentions of officers.  Some people think the worst of officers and I'm one of them.  I guess I was on the receiving end of harassment since I can remember.  I also don't agree with a lot of laws that are made and enforced.  Officers can force people to walk into what they want.  If they follow close and make a visual statement that they're following, the driver will be cautious not to break any moving violations.  They even have the power to tag people who drive too slow.  Now some states are passing a subjective law about ticketing things that seem aggressive.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: abb6@ra.msstate.edu (Drew Boyles )
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:31:28 -0500
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: Mississippi State University
MrKablooey© wrote in message <6tpei1$fsg$1@clarknet.clark.net>...

That's a case where going 32-35 mph would have been a blast just to keep the arrogant asswipe fuming.
No, because if you are going under the speed limit, you are suddenly guilty of "weaving." I do like to play the exact-speed game, though. Say you're going from a 55 zone to a 45 zone, as soon as you hit that 45 sign, mash the brakes. By the way, police are allowed to tailgate. Crown Victorias with those super high-performance tires they have on there (note the sarcasm) allow them to stop shorter than any other car on the road. The same goes for the handling superiority. That is why cops can choose a speed at which they wish to drive.
Drew Boyles

    The sarcasm of this person is justified by the discrimination many citizens face.  We pay the officer's salary and they have more privileges than the everyday citizen. I guess that the station feeds the public their reasons why they can drive the way they do, even though they are breaking laws.  If in pursuit or emergency, fine.  But, not because they're late for dinner.  I don't believe they deserve the recognition of public servants when so much people are wronged each day.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: michaels@thesolutioncenter.com (michaels@thesolutioncenter.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:03:01 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion
 

Don't forget all the in depth training they do to learn how to drive these
superior handling/stopping machines! I have seen/known cops with about as
much driving knowledge/skill as a teenager just getting his/her license.
There was a police woman about a year ago in my state that had never driven a
large car, but within a month or so on the force she was in a *hot pursuit*,
high speed chase. Needless to say she lost control of her car (I think it was
on a turn) and totalled it.
 

    This person is also angry at the law enforcement.  He is filled with sarcasm and will only say negative things about officers.  It is true that officers aren't trained properly in the things they do with cars. I can only imagine where the state finds the money to repair all their vehicles they treat like  bumper cars.  So in the end, they taxpayer pays for the cops, their damage to property, the crooks they catch, and their time in prison.  America the beautiful.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: webmaster@gyrogearloose.com (kingsnake)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:43:05 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: Gyro Gearloose Productions

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:31:28 -0500, "Drew Boyles"
<abb6@ra.msstate.edu> wrote: >By the way, police are allowed to tailgate. Yep. Cops are allowed to do just about anything they damn well please.
Just ask Rodney King. (Los Angeles, 1992)

    This person gives another example of law enforcement abusing their power.  I also get angry when I see them taking advantage of their position.  He is obviously furious like many others who have been harassed and fed the lies to the public justifying their reasons for their reckless driving.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: gribble@primenet.com (Mr. Fun)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:47:31 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc.

The state police used to do this all the time out here. They don't seem to do it as much lately. I think it's related to their IQ. The dumber they are the more likely they are to use such shithead tactics.

I can say that this person is fed up with the officers in his city.  He only uses harsh negatives that describe his position with the law.  I agree that officers are morally wrong to use tactics to issue tickets for whatever reason.  Some say that they have to make a quota, some say the more tickets given out, the more funding their department gets from the state.  It's funny that he uses their IQ level as a derogatory remark because it doesn't take a brain to be an officer.  Most officers I know choose that way because they couldn't handle college.  Whatever the rumors, everyone knows that it's fairly easy to become an officer.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: vdragon@mindspring.com (Rexven)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:51:30 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving

Hit the brakes, scream that you thought you saw a kid running out into the road (you did say residential area) and then collect from a serious lawsuit for your immense pain and suffering due to the officers ineptitude. States have deep pockets. :) Btw, I hate lawyers!.. I just hate power-tripping pinpricks even more..

    This person seems like a cunning fellow who knows how to make the law work for him.  This person is also filled with anger and irritation when hearing abusive cops. There is nothing to do, if you can actually accuse the officer, none of his colleagues will be against him.  I think they call it the blue wall or something on that line.  It hints wrong when states to set up funds for compensation of wrong doings on the officers part.  Why else would they need such funding for compensation if it were not frequent events going on.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From: a4@4rings.net (OOOO)
Date: 17 Sep 1998 16:06:27 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: Magma Communications Ltd.

He wasn't in a hurry obviously. Otherwise he would have turned on his flashers and went on his merry way. He was trolling for speeders. Brake test him, and sue his sorry ass for your pain and suffering, like other posters have said.

I agree that the officer was not in a hurry or he would have turned on his blue lights and went on his way.  I don't see any  reason for the officer to tailgate someone if they are not breaking any laws.  Why not stay in a highly speed prone area and tag them as they come instead of harassing someone and maybe missing the real law breakers.  The writer also is fed up or irritated with the law enforcement that obviously harass people.

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Subject: Re: trolling cop
From:aclaffie@bgnn.com (Alan J. Claffie)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:33:34 -0500
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Organization: http://www.bgnn.com

Whenever a policeman (or suspected policeman (serves em right for buying Crown Vics)) gets behind me it's "Bore The Cop" time. 5 MPH under the posted limit oughta give the good officer some indication that I'm a safe and sane driver just going about my business. One night on a 3 hour trip coming home from Thompson speedway I had the same Mass. State trooper wind up behind me on three separate occasions. I'd slow down, he'd tailgate for a while but I wouldn't speed up for him. Passing lanes came up and he blew my doors off, was quickly out of sight, and I was back to my typical speed (not that I drive fast, but I do go over the limit). If the cop gets aggrivated at me for my obeying the law, well, that's his problem. As long as I'm not doing anything ticketable (weaving, trying to defend passing maneuvers, etc.), he has no choice but to wait for a passing lane (or not in some cases) and then he's off on his merry way and my near-perfect driving record is still intact.

    I do wonder why officers do what they do.  When caught behind you they get angry and show road rage with his aggressive passing.  How can anybody win.  If we go to slow we become the victim of a dangerous act by a public servant, and if we speed, we get punished with a ticket and a raise in insurance.  Somehow I know what this person is talking about when the trooper followed him in three separate occasions.  I had an officer follow me and then turn down a street and I would turn down another street.  Somehow, he met up with me again and followed me to my house as I turned into my driveway.  Do you think if someone did the same thing to an officer, he could get away with it?

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