A Review of

Deborah Tannen, Ph.D.

Talking from 9 to 5

Women and Men in the Workplace:

Language, Sex and Power

Avon Books, 1994

 

by Samantha Fung,

University of Hawaii

 May 1st, 2003

 

Dr. Leon James, Instructor

Instructions for this Report

 

(1)           The Book’s Overall Content

(2)           The Book’s Importance

(3)           The Book’s Structure

(4)           Critique of the Book

(5)           Additional Observations

 

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The Book’s Overall Content

 

     In Talking From 9 to 5, Dr. Deborah Tannen explains and explores the different communication styles of women and men in the workplace.  To better understand the content, I have identified six major topics to represent the overall content of the book: a) Conversational Styles, b) Asymmetry in Conversational Styles, c) Gender Roles Come into Play, d) “WOMEN”: Marked Form of “MEN”,      e) Women, Power and Status, and f) Generalizing vs. Stereotyping.

 

     I find the topics very intriguing and inspiring because while reading the book, many times I found myself exclaiming “Aha! No wonder!”  The topics are related and progress from the first to the last.  They also overlap with each other to different extents. 

 

 

Conservational Styles (Ch.2, p.43-51, 54-57, 66-70; Ch.3, p. 78-79; Ch.9 300-302)

     In the beginning, the book deals with certain conversational rituals that people often use in the workplace.  Conversational rituals such as saying “I’m sorry”, “thank you” or giving praises and compliments are being used as smoothers to grease the wheels of a working environment.

 

     Besides using conversational rituals, talking in an indirect way also marks the style of a person’s way of communicating with others.  Some people give bald commands at work, but some use indirect requests that are so indirect that they do not sound like requests at all.  Rather, they are just statements of need or descriptions of a situation.

 

     Another conversational style that distinguishes a group of people from others is the use of “rapport talk”, as opposed to “report talk”.  Rapport talk is used when the speaker tries to maintain an equal status with those who are listening and it provides ground for everyone to speak up, whereas in report talk, the speaker tries to take and keep center stage.  

 

 

Asymmetry in Conversational Styles (Ch. 2, p.45-47; Ch.3, p.79; Ch.9, p.301)

     A conversation usually runs smoothly when both parties are using and interpreting the conversational rituals in the same or similar way.  However, if one party construes the ritual in a way that is different from the other, problem arises.  The differing rituals are even more problematic when the parties think they are both speaking the same language.

 

     Other than conversational rituals, indirectness also triggers confusion and misunderstanding when speakers have different habits with regard to using it.

 

     As in the cases of different uses of conversational rituals and indirectness, rapport-talkers often find themselves lacking the chance or feeling uncomfortable to speak up in a group of report-talkers, and hence an unpleasant feeling builds within them.

 

 

Gender Differences Come into Play (Ch.1, p.23; Ch.9, p.301)

     So how does the asymmetry in conversational rituals relate with “women and men in the workplace”? It is interesting to note that although individual differences account for some asymmetry in conversational rituals, most part of the asymmetry comes from the gender differences of women and men.

 

     The conversational styles that men often use involve using opposition such as banter, teasing, and playful insults, and trying to avoid the one-down position in their interactions.  It is also common for men to form a certain hierarchy among them.  Since they were boys, high-status boys emerge and hold center-stage while other lower-status boys take the role as a follower.  Many men, therefore, are more used to rapport-talks because of their experiences of holding center-stage as boys better prepare them to speak up at meetings.

 

     As for women, it is more common for them to maintain an appearance of equality and take into account the effect of the exchange on the other person.  In order to do that, women often put themselves in a one-down position so that they do not have to flex their muscles to get the job done.  Even when they were girls, they tried not to stand out from the group and establish themselves as someone superior to the rest of the group.  To them, standing out means being bossy, and most women put themselves down to avoid that title.

 

 

“WOMAN”: Marked Form of “MAN” (Ch.4, p.108-109, 111-112)

     The word “woman”, according to the Bible (Gen 2:23), is defined as “taken out of man”.  It seems that since the world was created, “woman” is the marked form of “man”.  When something is “marked”, it means that it has something extra added to it, and it is not something of its original form.

 

     By looking at most of the English words, one can say that the unmarked forms always convey “male”.  Words such as “chairman” and “chairlady”, “actor” and “actress”, “policeman” and “policewoman” exemplify the case that being male is unmarked.

 

     Not only daily words we use but also the surnames of all married women are marked.  If a woman chooses to use her husband’s name, she announces to the world that she is married and will be identified more by her husband’s identity.  However, if she chooses not to use her husband’s name but to keep her own, she is said to have “kept her own name”, a case which is also marked.  This, however, never occurs to a man because using his own name is unmarked. 

 

 

Women, Power and Status (Ch.6, p.160-162; Ch.5, p.133-136)

     One of the authority figures assumed by many women is the role of a mother.  However, some use it as a derogatory against women when women are the ones who watch out for those who report to them.  It seems that when people think of a female authority figure, they think of their own mother. 

 

     However, in the real world, women, who are in positions of authority, do not act like an authority figure.  It is because they think that an authority figure is thought to be authoritarian, and an authoritarian does not make a good manager when it comes to management.

 

     Women are also found to downplay their authority while exercising it.  They hold the notion that “we’re all equals” and try not to establish a hierarchical relationship with their subordinates.  Unfortunately, although they are very considerate in creating a friendlier working environment for their co-workers, it is seen by some that these women are incompetent rather than considerate.

 

     Even women who are not in a position of power tend to remain as equals with their fellow co-workers.  They are, in general, more reluctant than men to speak up and stand out as an individual.  As a result, they are also seen by their superiors as incompetent and hardly get a chance to be promoted.  These women are said to be prevented from rising to the top by an invisible barrier, which many refer to as the “glass ceiling”.  Many companies thus lose a number of competent female workers who should have been promoted but are held back by the glass ceiling.

 

 

Generalizing vs. Stereotyping (Ch.1, p.27; Ch.4, p.117; Afterword, p.311-313)

     The terms generalizing and stereotyping both come into use when one talks about women and men in the workplace.  To generalize means to move beyond a single instance and see its relationship with other instances.  It is helpful to generalize certain conversational styles at work because that will save time and effort in discerning every single pattern.

 

     Yet, one should also bear in mind that there will be exceptions to the patterns observed and that the mode of generalization should not be taken too far or to an extreme, or else stereotyping occurs.  Stereotyping is similar to generalizing, but different in its sense of rigidity.  A stereotype is an image or idea of a particular type of person or thing that has become fixed through being widely held.  Not only stereotyping does not enhance communication at work, it actually aggravates any confusion or misunderstanding aroused.

 

     A common stereotype among women and men in their styles is that men are more focused on information and that women are more sensitive.  Many times, this does not hold true when it comes to asking for directions when lost.

 

 

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The Book’s Importance

 

     Dr. Tannen’s Talking From 9 to 5 is important in discerning the different ways in which men, women, and individuals in general communicate in the workplace.  This helps promote a more positive and productive professional relationship among women and men.

 

    The book’s topics are relevant to public concern today where sexism still exists and some women’s potentials are still limited by the glass ceiling.  By reading this book, superiors to female employees will understand that in many cases, it is a woman’s consideration that seems to render her incompetent but not her real ability.

 

     The topics are also relevant to psychology as a field because it helps raise questions such as how people’s upbringing affects their later way of communication styles, or how people relate a female authority figure to their own mother.  I think more in-depth researches are needed to fully answer those questions to help promote a better working environment.

 

     The book does not attempt to answer all the questions about miscommunications one can find at the workplace, but helps readers to be more flexible in thinking to find out why such miscommunications can take place. 

 

     As a psychology major, I think this book fits very well in this course.  It is true that this book does not consist well-cited research papers, nevertheless, it provides ground for discussion and stimulates students to think upon what researches could have been done to further explain a miscommunication problem.

 

 

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The Book’s Structure

 

     This book does not have exercises or end-of-chapter quizzes.  Not does it have any tables or diagrams.

 

     The Chapter titles give a pretty good preview of what each chapter is about, yet within each chapter, it is not easy to relate the sub-titles with the chapter title.  The sub-titles seems a little scattered within the chapter.  I think more transitions between each sub-title are needed to make the chapters more comprehensive.

 

     The “Afterword”, I think, can be as set up a chapter on its own.  Although it does summarize some ideas brought forward by the preceding chapters, it also consists of ideas that were not discussed previously in the chapters, such as generalizing and stereotyping.

 

                The index is easy to use and is useful when I need to look up specific terms to help me refresh the memory of a certain chapter.

 

     The print is neither too small nor too big.  It is just of the right size.

 

 

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Critique of the Book

 

As mentioned earlier, I found this book very inspiring because it helps me understand why certain people use certain conversational rituals.  I am also more aware of the differences in conversation styles of the people around me and I’m propelled further to find out why, without passing judgment, some people adopt a certain communication style.

 

I think it is wise of Dr. Tannen to constantly remind readers to be flexible when looking for solutions to deal with all different types of communication styles.  One quote that I found very interesting is on p. 309 & 310:

 

“…the most important key is understanding the parameters of conversational style, which provides the tools to become more flexible not only in your way of speaking but, equally important, in interpretinghow others mean what they say, and in evaluating others’ abilities.”

 

Needless to say, it would be impossible to list all the solutions in the book, when at the same time, it would be too easy if people can just follow a guide and do according to what the book says.

 

Another quote that I like very much is on p.43 & 44:

 

“…Americans are hypocritical because they ask you you are but aren’t interested in the answer.  And Americans in Burma are puzzled when Burmese ask, “Have you eaten yet?”—and show no sign of inviting them to lunch.  In the Philippines, people ask each other, “Where are you going?”—which may seem rather intrusive to Americans, who don’t realize that the only reply expected is, “Over there.””

 

I like the fact that cultural differences are included in this book.  Though, again, it does not provide all possible solutions of how one can deal with a foreigner, it reminds readers to bear in mind that cultural differences exist and that people should respect them.

 

To improve the book, I would suggest Dr. Tannen to include a summary at the end of each chapter so that it can wrap up what the chapter has introduced or explored.  By doing this, the reader can get a firmer grasp of the chapter by reading the summary before moving on to the next chapter.  It will help the reader to better remember and hence connect ideas throughout the book.

 

Other reviews that I have found of this book can be retrieved at the following websites:

 

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0380717832/104-2149448-9791902?vi=glance

http://empathy.colstate.edu/Books/talking_from_9_to_5.htm

http://www.book.nu/0671505602

 

 

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Additional Observations

 

In Chapter 4, the book talks about women being marked in the work place, which I agree, however, if we take the biological point of view, it is the men who are marked.  Every person is born a woman with the chromosome pair XX unless something extra, in this case it is the chromosome Y, is added to make the chromosome pair an XY to change that person to a man.  Yet, in real life, it is the women who are marked, not men.

 

Another thing that comes to my mind while writing up this report is that, in my usual writing, I usually write “men and women”, with the word “men” preceding the word “women”, but in this report I always use “women and men”.  I guess I was influenced by the title of this book and also the author.

 

     During class, Dr. James has mentioned a couple of times that some other articles written by Dr. Tannen can be found from the web.  I decided to look them up and found Dr. Tannen’s home page with a link to many of her General Audience Publications which can be retrieved at http://www.georgetown.edu/faculty/tannend/popular.htm.

 

 

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