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Aggressive and Dangerous?
Punk Teenage Drivers
SUV's Getting Out of Hand
Wow That is One Stupid Chick

Considering Law School
Trying to Quit Smoking
Cyber Relationships
Is it Wrong to Cyber?

 

CONCLUSIONS

SUGGESTIONS


 

Aggressive and Dangerous?

Re: Aggressive and Dangerous?
Date: 1999/03/03
 

I have found that the people who complain the most about "aggressive drivers" are basically incompetent drivers.  I drive quite a bit and virtually never encounter problems from so called aggressive drivers. The people who have the "problems", have those problems because they are to damn stupid to get out of the way and stay right... they like to daydream in the left lane and then get all bent out of shape when someone comes up behind and wants to pass them.   When I'm not in the mood to go fast I stay out of other peoples way and just watch them disappear.

An excellent summation of the problem.  People who have no clue about driving etiquette ("Why is that jerk flashing his highbeams at me, I'm doing the speed limit!") are the most frustrating people of them all. And they have the gall to complain about drivers getting frustrated for being held up for miles.
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Brandon


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In this discussion, the two writers are complaining about slow drivers in the left lane of the freeway.  Mr. Fun makes an assumption that people who complain the most about aggressive drivers are the incompetent and stupid drivers who stay in the left lane.  This is his attempt at making the rationalization that aggressive drivers are competent drivers.  By the way Mr. Fun expresses his opinions, it is likely that he truly believes he is one of those aggressive and proficient drivers.  When he comes across slow drivers, he usually comes up behind and passes them.  Coming up behind and passing a car is definitely characterized as aggressive driving behavior.  Mr. Fun justifies this behavior because slow drivers have the choice whether to remain in the fast lane or not. Brandon responds to Mr. Funās comments by agreeing that slow drivers are the root of problem.  He expresses his frustration and feels that these people have no clue about "driving etiquette".  By this comment, Brandon is assuming that fast drivers follow "driving etiquette" and cause no problems on the road.  These two writers are clearly venting aggression towards the other drivers who drive slow in the fast lane.  I disagree with the comments made by Mr. Fun and Brandon that slow drivers are incompetent and troublesome.  Yes, sometimes they can be annoying but it doesn't necessarily mean that they cause problems on the road.  The problem lies in the aggressive driver who doesn't have the patience to drive at the speed limit. 

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Punk Teenage Drivers

Re: Punk Teenage Drivers!
Date: 1999/02/06
 

I am going to take this topic from another point of view, I drive fast, but intelligently. And YES there is such a thing. What pisses me off more than anything is the older people who lack the reaction time and have long since been castrated. These people take forever to do anything and are the true dangers on the road second only to drunk drivers. You should lose the ability to have a drivers license when you turn 65 or 70. While were complaining, those of you who plant your sorry ass in the fast lane of the road and go at or below the speed limit, GET THE FUCK OVER. Nobody, NOBODY, has the right to drive in the far right lane. It is a passing lane, not a driving lane. And if you are riding in that lane, either to pass or your just being stupid (which most people are when it comes to driving) and you see some one coming up on you in your rearview, complete your pass and MOVE OVER. Leave the right lane for people who drive the way cars are suppost to be driven.

Zeta


I always here my elders putting down teenage drivers and their driving habits.  Well, I'm a bit sick of it so I'm expressing my distate of this type of commeting to my favorite newsgroup.  A minority of teenage drivers actually drive "crazy" or in other terms, fast and reckless.  Most teenagers are trying to drive precisely but a little of time is needed before they get it all down.  As for the drivers that do drive crazy, where do you think they get those kind of habits from?  TV?  More likely parents or other examples.  I pulled up to a stoplight and right beside me was an early Mustang.  Who should be driving it but a 60-70 yr. old man (no exaggeration).  This guy revs his engine and looks over to me with a look of hunger.  Well, being a teenager and being in my 88 Turbo, the temptation was too great, especially since it was an old man attempting to race me.  The point is, before you start "ragging on" teenagers, think about where they get their habits and whether or not you're contributing to "crazy" drivers. Thanks. [ STEVE! ]

 
Re: Punk Teenage Drivers!
Date: 1999/02/14
 

Okay, guys, it looks like this has gotten a wee bit out of hand.  First of all, Stephen, i like your post.  and you are absolutely right.  The majority of teen drivers are inexperienced, know it, and try to do their best to be responsible.  But, then again, it's the small minority of teen drivers who make up for all the responsible rest in making "elders" angry at your age group.  But, once again, you are right.  No one should "lump" anyone in an all-consuming generalization.  So, for teen drivers who are responsible:

Thank you much.

Now, for teen drivers who frequently go well beyond their ability:  Go for it, but if you crash and burn be damned certain that you don't hurt anybody else or do significant damage to property.

Now for left-lane-bandits, slow folks (regardless of age) and those who swear at them, get over it.  We live in an ever expanding world, one in which personal freedoms are becoming more and more restricted.  Take a deep breath, realize the consequences of your actions, whether you're holding up others or trying to push others out of your way.  Treat obstacles are just that, obstacles.  get around them safely and quickly.  it is your duty to do so, your responsibility.  don't tailgate, don't crowd anyone.  EVERYBODY, drive responsibly!  This doesn't mean slow.  If you drive fast, remember you are taking on substantial additional responsibility for the comfort and safety of others.  We must make allowances for ALL types of drivers on the road.  no matter how much one raves, rants, flames, cries or moans, no one group is going to go away.

That said, EVERYBODY SPEED!

Mars


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This was an interesting newsgroup to follow because it included responses between two different people, Zeta and Mars regarding the original posting by Steve.  Steve expresses his anger towards elder people who seem to always comment on  the negative driving abilities of teenage drivers.  Age-ism is often used against drivers: sheās a typical inexperienced driver or sheās driving like an old lady. He believes that only a small portion of teenage drivers are actually "crazy" drivers.  He also comments on the aggressive driving habits that are modeled after adults and parents.  Here he is making an assumption that all reckless driving habits begin with older people.  Itās not the teenagers fault for copying them. 

Steve shares his driving experience with a 60-70 year old man who attempted to race him.  Steve couldnāt resist the temptation and raced the old man.  Zeta responds to Steveās message regarding older drivers.  She makes a discriminating remark that older people should not be allowed to drive because they take forever to do anything.  Zeta then begins to get out of hand when she starts making nasty comments on slow drivers who go at or below the speed limit in the fast lane.  In the beginning of her message Zeta confidentally admits that she is a fast driver, BUT an intelligent fast driver.  Mars finally comes in after reading the postings by Steve and Zeta. He comes in as a mediator who tries to calm down some of the writers who are obviously very frustrated with both old and slow drivers.
 

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SUV's Getting Out of Hand

Re:  Car owners should file a class action lawsuit against SUV makers for excessive damaged SUVs caused on cars
Date: 1999/03/05
 

Recently the goverment NHTSA released video tapes show extensive damages caused by SUVs on car in collisons. Because SUVs are biger than cars, most of SUV drivers are reckless, irresponsible, and bully on the highway. Driving an SUV by an agressive driver is equivalent to carrying a AK 47 assaut rifle or a bazoka on the street. There are a significant increases in death and excessive damages caused by the increase of SUVs on the streets and highway. SUV makers knew the danger and the damages caused by collisions with SUVs but they ignored the facts and are selling more and bigger SUVs for the bucks.

The City of Chicago is sueing gun manufacturers for the gun crimes in Chicago. Many States have sued the Tobacco industry for the sales of cigarettes.

It is time for victims of traffic death and exessive damages caused by SUVs to file a law suit against SUV makers for their irresponsible sales of SUVs and for unsafe automobile on the streets. Let's start a class action suit.


Date: 1999/03/05
 

Not another one...ugh.

People drive SUVs, SUVs don't drive themselves.  Take away the SUV and the dangerous driver will just find some other vehicle to use as a "weapon".

How about we sue people's parents or the hospital they were born in for bringing these stupid/aggressive/dangerous people into the world in the first place.  That's about in line with what you suggest...

You're going after the puppet, not the person pulling the strings. They'll get another puppet of a different kind.

An SUV without a driver is not dangerous, right?  Touching it while parked or driving by it won't kill/hurt you, will it?  So lets see...you put someone behind the wheel and it becomes a weapon yet the driver is not the person at fault.

I fail to see your logic.  Explain? ö[ Hogan Whittall ]


Date: 1999/03/05
 

I'm sorry, but this is the biggest load of crap I have heard in a while. Yes, if a small car hits, or is hit by a bigger vehicle it will sustain more damage.  That is basic physics.  Get over it.  Ever see what happens to a car hit by an 18 wheeler?  Its not pretty.  How about a bus, or a dump truck, or a street sweeper.  Hey, how about a beefy pickup truck?  Forget about cars, hitting a tree is a losing battle too, or large boulders, or even Deer or Moose.  You know what, all of those vehicles are much bigger than a Honda Civic, and the Honda will lose the battle in a collision with ANY of them, not just SUV's.  Did you ever notice how many 18 wheelers are on the road? Should we file a suit against them, I wouldn't want to be hit by one!  Let's get real. 

To make the gross generalization that SUV drivers are wreckless is an irresponsible statement in itself.  I have never been in an accident driving an SUV.  While driving a Toyota Corrolla hatchback, a 15 foot tall dump truck drove right over my front end (he did not see my little car down there) and he did not even feel it.  People walking along the sidewalk had to wave at him to get him to stop and realize he just drove right over the hood of my car.  I never considered filing a law suit against dump truck manufacturers because they are too big!  Sh*t like that happens sometimes. Drive safely, no matter what car you drive, and everyone will be fine.  There will ALWAYS be accidents on the roads and there will always be fatalities. That's the way it is. SUV's, and their drivers are not the cause of the problem.

Do you propose that all car manufacturers must make all cars the same size just to protect the little cars?  How about separate roads depending on car size? That's a good idea.  What about the older cars on the road, like a 1964 Chrysler Newport?  Those cars are big, and solid.  You wouldn't want to hit one of those either.

I wish everyone would stop blaming the fragility of the world on other people. I'm sorry, but you will not always be safe in life.  Take your own precautions to be safe, don't rely on others to do it all for you! [ Rooster ]


Date: 1999/03/05
 

i'm glad i just bought a bigger truck.maybe now i can crush your dumb ass when i hit you.why don't you mind your own business.your argument is stupid and does not make any since at all.what is the difference of what car you get  hit by?you could be just as dead if i hit you with my mother in-laws bonniville doing 70  as with my truck. its not the trucks fault its the drivers.same with a car.   so a car can't wreck into a suv and kill somebody?run it off the road?and there is never car to car wrecks that kill is there.their are just plain ass bad drivers out there,they piss me off too and that is the problem.not the vehicles .why are you trying to blame suv's for reckless driving?   its dumb ass's like you who try to make a stink over stupid shit that end up making laws that end up hurting everybody and costing everybody more money.let me guess,your pro life,against owning a gun,against fur and were out picking ford for not being y2k compliant. what some advice,get a hobby.


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It's amazing to see how people can get really aggressive over someone's messages.  In this discussion, I noticed that the writers took some of the comments a little too personally and ended up flaming and abusing the author of the original message. In this discussion, there was no motivation to actually face the situation and find a solution to the problem.  Instead, the writers were more concerned with proving themselves right and others wrong.  Most of the comments were made to the original author, David Ly, who expressed his desire to start a class action against SUV Makers.  I assume that he wrote this message in the hopes that others would respond and agree that SUVās are dangerous on the road.  Instead, David got a lot of messages commenting on how ridiculous he was with his comments on SUVās.  Hogan used sarcasm to prove his point that itās the driver, not the SUV that is potentially dangerous.  Despite his sarcastic remarks, Hoganās message made a lot of sense.  Roosterās message gets a little out of hand, but itās still not that bad.  He just wants to express his view on the issue that SUVās and their drivers are not the cause of the problem.  However, the flaming really gets heated with Jasonās message.  "Maybe now I can crush your dumb ass when I hit you."  I agree with the comments to D. Lyās posting, but definitely disagree with Jasonās flaming approach to the issue. 
 

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Wow That is One Stupid Chick


Re: Wow that is one stupid chick
Date: 1999/03/04
 

I'd really like to pit Lewinsky in an IQ test vs. my Golden Retriever - I'm very, very curious to see who would score higher. Pretty scary to hear her say that the President described himself as a man (paraphrase) "who has lied his entire life". I voted for the guy the last two elections - WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING? Gotta go Republican in 2000.

I did not see the interview (HBO had Gotti) but from the excerpts this morning, I think she should be sent to prison for contributing to the delienquency of a minor.

One of the most enjoyable things about being 65 is watching the younger generations make the same dumb mistakes, the same stupid assumptions, buy the same political scams and fall for the same societal gimmicks and not having a clue as to what is really going on. The fun is seeing that look on their faces, when the truth finally hits them. [ The OldTimer ]

You didn't miss much, personally I which to A & E to catch Inspector Morse after the first hour of the interview.

Lewinsky is a gold digging sexual predator and the media has stooped to new lows in allowing her to pursue her efforts.  With advertising going for $800,000 per hour I would be very curious just how much sweet little Monica received for her two hours of work. [ F. Prefect ]

Re: Wow that is one stupid chick
Date: 1999/03/04
 

A GOLD DIGGING SEXUAL PREDATOR? You're kidding. Right? You actually have the nerve to say that about a 22 year old kid. Who,with clarity last night, showed that she is one of the most naive little girls to have been taken advantage of in a long while. I think you have it all backwards. The 50 year old, mature, Rhode scholar is supposed to know better. He couldn't resist playing her for the fool she so obviously is. Don't ya think? Get with it Ford. Get off your knee pads. [Gould ]


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The title of this newsgroup, Wow That is One Stupid Chick, speaks for itself.  The subject of this discussion is Monica Lewinsky and her Barbara Walters interview.  Close to 20 million viewers watched this interview and it was apparent that everyone would have their opinions regarding Monica Lewinsky.  Itās likely that this newsgroup was created for people to express their feelings and opinions about Lewinsky.  What better way, than a newsgroup to do it.  The title of the this newsgroup attracted writers who were interested in sharing their opinions regarding Lewinsky as a stupid and senseless kid.  Most of the viewers who responded in this newsgroup have no respect for Lewinsky and her actions in the Clinton affair.  Ford comments on the mediaās lowly action to allow Lewinsky to pursue her gold digging efforts.  Gould responds directly to Fordās comments on Lewinsky as a gold digger.  For Gould, this newsgroup was a way to comment on the responses regarding Lewinsky as a stupid girl.  Looking at the title, it would be obvious what kind of messages this newsgroup would contain.  However Gould made the effort to browse and comment on the postings in this newsgroup as a way to express her disagreement on Lewinsky as a stupid girl, but rather a naive  22 year old little girl who was taken advantage of. 

 

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Considering Law School

Re: Considering Law School
Date: 1999/03/02
 

I am a 25 year old mother of one and am seriously considering applying to law school.  I have spoken to several students, one of which is a mother, so I have a good idea of what I'm getting into regarding the school aspect.  My question is more geared toward someone in the work force now.  I am concerned that I will be expected to put in 80 hours a week if I want a good paying job out of law school.  I'm not sure I want to sacrifice my family life to pursue this field.  I am very much interested in law and would love to practice.  I would just like some input from people who have been there or are there on what it's like after law school and how they balance a family and practicing law.  Any feedback is appreciated.
 

It depends on what you consider a good paying job.  Associates at top firms (60K-100K depending on what area of the country you live in) generally work about 60-90 hours a week.  However, there are many small firms which are fairly "family-friendly."  Very small firms (like less than 20 attorneys), generally have no minimum billable hours.  However, in many smaller firms your bonus is dependant upon how much money you bring into the firm (through billable hours and/or contingency fees).  Even with this bonus, many times associates in small firms make 1/2 to 3/4 of what associates in large firms make.  There are also times when any lawyer is expected to put in tremendously long hours (before a big case goes to trial, before an important deposition, etc.).

I would strongly caution you to know what you are getting into if you do go to law school.  Many times people go because it sounds like a good idea or they think it will be interesting, and are sorely dissapointed when it comes time to actually practice law (and pay back law school loans).  If you have the opportunity, I would advise you to either temp or get a part-time job in a law office.  You will learn nothing about actually "practicing law," but it will give you the chance to see what lawyers do all day, and if it is something that you want to do.  There are people who actually enjoy practicing law, but in my experience these are the people who thought long and hard about why they want to be a lawyer, and how to make practicing law work for them.

I am not a lawyer, but I have worked in law firms for several years.  I am roughly your age, and plan on applying to law chools next semester. However, I am not married and I do not have children.  If I did, I'm not sure if I would consider going to law school.  There are many things that are more profitable and require fewer hours than practicing law.  Another thing you might consider is waiting until your child is older before you go back to law school.  Law school is very possible with young children, however actually practicing law (especially in the beginning) requires working more hours than many parents feel comfortable with.  Many people delay going to law school and use the experience they have built up in other areas (business, journalism, insurance, etc.) to compliment their legal careers.

Good luck!

[ Ariel ]


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In this newsgroup, Heath posts a question regarding law school.  I chose this newsgroup because like Heath, I am interested in going to law school in the future.  I was amazed to find so many newsgroups relating to law school and the law profession.  Anything  you can think of can be found in a newsgroup.  Anyway, back to this newsgroup.  Heath describes her current position as a 25 year old working mother who is interested in attending law school.  The reason for her posting was to get feedback from people regarding law school.  It was interesting to how many responses she received in so little time.  She posted her message on March 2 and within a week of her posting, she received 8 responses to her question.  I found this to be a very supportive and encouraging newsgroup.   Arielās response was very similar to others, however she was a little more detailed than the rest of the respondents.  Like Ariel, most of them recommended that Heath take the time to research what sheās getting into before jumping into law school.  Although Ariel is not a lawyer, it seems that she knows a lot about the law profession.  A newsgroup like this can be very helpful for people looking for answers and suggestions to various questions.  I really enjoyed browsing this newsgroup as I found answers to some of my questions regarding law school- a lot of hard work and dedication.

 

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Trying to Quit Smoking

Re:  Trying to quit smoking?
Date: 1999/03/03

 

Come on over and explain to my children why they'll never meet their grandparents.  Watch them cry when they have to write about their family tree in school and they're the only ones in class with no grandparents or great-aunts alive on their mother's side of the family.  Choke it back while your son asks you to proofread his homework which reads: "Dear grandpa, I really with I could meet you.  I think you would love me."  Oh, it goes on and on.

I smoked heavily for years.  If I could market what I did to stop I'd be a rich woman today.  I never *quit* smoking; instead I became a non-smoker. Non-smokers don't have smelly curtains.  Non-smokers don't have overflowing ashtrys all over the house. They don't have to get clothes dry-cleaned just to get the smell out, not because they're dirty.  Non-smokers can drive with both hands.  And so on.  It took me a few months to prepare myself for the change, and then I did it.  I'd been looking forward to all the benefits of being a non-smoker and that helped me get by the big trials -- the first time I went to a bar and didn't smoke, the first time I went into a coworker's office and she offered me a cigarette (my old favorite brand) -- and honestly, it was OK. Hard, but OK.  I'd done the hard psych work already.

I'm not downplaying the physical addiction.  If I could figure out how to get past that my husband wouldn't be a heavy smoker.  Imagine how I feel, how the kids feel, when they see Daddy go into the garage over and over again to sit and smoke.  How we feel when Daddy comes home from a business trip and opens the suitcase to fill the house with ashtray odor?  See, I KNOW what it feels like to lose someone to cigarette-induced lung cancer.  It took a long time for my Dad to die.  He weighed about 80 pounds at the end and begged me to "pull the blankets up all the way" and "turn out the lights" and he wasn't talking about cloth or light bulbs.  I was 17 then.  It still hurts now to remember it.

And still my husband smokes.  If it helps you become a non-smoker, spend some time thinking about how the kids and I feel.  Think of me on Mother's Day, or Father's Day.  Think of the empty seats in the school cafeteria on my children's awards night.  Think of my own high school graduation five months after my dad died.  He never graduated from high school, and it meant the world to him to see me do it.  He didn't get to see it.  Then there's the full-tuition scholarship I gave up because my mother couldn't handle things after his death.  My brother's military career shut down because he had to request a humanitarian stateside duty assignment.

I can't blame my parents.  They didn't know what smoking would do to them.  But you do.

Oh, yeah, I'll play dirty if it helps you to not smoke.  Just ask me.  I'll keep this coming.

Take care,

[ Janet ]


Date: 1999/03/03
 

Well, Janet, now you've done it.  You've gone and made me cry!  I couldn't help but think of my Daddy when was  reading your story.  Here I am, making straight A's in school, and he's not here to see it.  He would have been the most thrilled of all, even more than I am.

He started smoking at the age of 7.  He quit at 57, 6 weeks before he died.  He just didn't have enough breath to draw on it anymore.  It's been 9 and 1/2 years, and I still miss him like it was yesterday. [ Jodith ]


Date: 1999/03/04
 

Well, let me be your cheering squad, girl!  Straight A's don't come easily, so you deserve a lot of credit for earning those grades.  Your Daddy is proud of you.  So am I.

APPLAUSE!   APPLAUSE!   APPLAUSE!

Take care,

[ Janet ]


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It was refreshing to find a posting that was supportive of another.  Both writers expressed sincerity regarding smoking.  Janet shares her smoking experiences as an adult and as a child at 17 when her father passed away.  Her posting was touching because Janet sounded very sincere in this newsgroup she created for people trying to quit smoking.   Her story about her fatherās death caused by cigarette-induced cancer was really sad and depressing.  Janet used her experience as a young girl losing her father to smoking as a way to encourage others to quit smoking.  Iām not a smoker, but if I read this posting I think I would actually think twice about smoking.  At the end of her posting, Janet even writes "Iāll play dirty if it helps you to not smoke".  It is obvious that Janet is very concerned about people who smoke and wants to make an effort to encourage others to quit.  If youāre a smoker who wants to quit, this is a great newsgroup to visit and participate in. 
 

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Cyber Relationships

Re: Cyber Relationships
Date: 1999/02/18
 

How many people believe that a cyber romance is no threat to a real life marriage or relationship? Can a cyber relationship really be harmless, or are their genuine feelings involved and if so, how does one deal with the long distance relationship when there are local prospects nearby.

Over a year ago, I got an email from a woman responding to a forgotten internet personals ad.

In the beginning, the goal was merely to find a Kindred Spirit, a platonic friend, to share poetry, etc.

It developed into love.

I was informed the woman's current marriage had been bad from the start. We wrestled with that issue for a long time, to assure both of us that I was not some sort of "home wrecker."

We came together, too quickly, to form an Instant Family.

In the end, things did not work out. I believe it was due more to her personal problems, and our inability to seek counselling to sort things out.

I believe the lack of a good ending had nothing to do with the fact that we met on the Internet, or that she left her husband, to be with me.

But it hurt just the same.

 

Re: Cyber Relationships
Date: 1999/02/19
 

Cyber relationships are not harmless.  Cyber relationships fill the void missing in real relationships.  I don't make friends online because I have too many real ones to keep me busy.. and I don't make up fantasy relationships online since I have what I need in my real life relationships....

Cyber "relationships" breakup marriages that were already broken..but they encourage people to look outside the relationship to correct the problem instead of where they should - inside the relationship.


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This newsgroup selection discuses a couple of different viewpoints with regards to cyber relationships and its threat to real life relationships.  The first posting, by Traci poses these cyber relationship questions.  Is seems that Traci is very concerned about this issue and for this reason, decided to make her posting to this newsgroup in the hopes that individuals reading would respond to her questions.  Most of the responses saw cyber romance as no threat to real life relationships.  I chose a couple of postings by two individuals who also felt this way towards the issue.  Jack shares his experience in a relationship with a woman he met over the Internet.  The relationship ended quickly, but he feels it had nothing to do with the fact that they met on the Internet.  From the posting, it seems as if Jack sees cyber relationships as harmless.  However, his experience shows some of the possible damages resulting from relationships formed on the Internet.  Jack admits it that she even left her husband to be with him.  Cyber relationship harmless?  Jenn clearly states her position in the very beginning of her posting- cyber relationships are not harmless.  Her statement that cyber relationships fill the void missing in real relationships is at attempt to rationalize and justify her actions.  Jenn expresses that her needs are being met in her real life relationships, contradicting her own statement regarding the missing void in real relationships.  If her needs were actually being met, then there would be no missing void. 
 

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Is it Wrong to Cyber?

Re: Is It Wrong To Cyber?
Date: 1999/02/17

 

If your sexual needs aren't even being attempted to be met by your spouse, do you think it's wrong to cyber in chat rooms? Is this >definitely cheating, kind of cheating, not really cheating, or what? Your opinions?
 

Ask your spouse.

[ Nancy ]

Re: Is It Wrong To Cyber?
Date:  1999/02/17
 

My husband "cybers" with his female friends with his sexual and emotional intimate fantasies and longings.  Meanwhile I am alone in our bed, feeling pretty unfulfilled.  I go to my therapist to tell about my sorrows and the pain of being rejected.  My therapist explains that my husband is able to participate in "fantasy" relationships, but is scared of even attempting to build the "real thing".  If I want to stay with him, it'll be like being married to an adolescence.  I have to learn not to expect an adult, mature partner-and not to be bitter at him for being unable to grow-up.  I'll have to learn to get my emotional and spiritual needs met in other relationships. It's hard to take, but I wonder if all men are into playing head games? [ Janie ]

 

Re: Is It Wrong To Cyber?
Date:  1999/02/19
 

I agree with Michelle here. My husband is obsessed with the newsgroups and the porn sites on the net. I made it clear to him that ANY chat room sex or sex e-mail exchange with women I would consider cheating. For a while I was checking up on him on his computer, but he does have a e-mail account with a password I dont know. I have talked to him about this and I am confident he isnt  'cybering',but I still get REAL jelous that he surfs the porn sites so much.

 

Re: Is It Wrong To Cyber?
Date: 1999/02/21

 

No it is not wrong to cyber. My sexual needs are being met very well by my spouse and I STILL cyber. Sometimes we even cyber together. Dont go looking for problems when there are none. Cyber sex if fun, creative and can really enhance your marriage. I say go for it.


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 The original posting by Jack poses a question to the newsgroup concerning  "cyber".  He uses the term "cyber" to refer to what I believe is known as cyber sex.  He questions whether cyber sex in chat rooms is considered cheating and attempts to gather the opinions of other newsgroup members regarding this issue.  It is my belief and assumption that Jack has somehow been involved with cyber sex and is anxious to find some answers.  What better way than newsgroups to find these answers.  It is possible that Jack is describing himself in his posting.  I included the posting by Nancy because I found her three word response, "ask your spouse" very meaningful.  With few words, she was able to describe her opinions regarding cyber sex.  Another posting is by Janie, who shares her story about her husband and his "cyber" obsessions. While her husband goes on the internet to share his sexual and emotional fantasies with other individual on the net, Janie is left alone in bed to feel the pain of rejection. 

It seems to me that she is suffering from an unfulfilled marriage which goes beyond the problem of her husband and his cyber sex activities.  Janieās feelings regarding "cyber" is shared by Kessie Ann.  Kessieās has made it clear to her husband that any chat room sex or sex e-mail exchange would be considered cheating.  Tvplist on the other hand, sees cyber sex as a fun and creative experience.  Cyber sex is a subjective matter which could be a result from individuals having different experiences.  It seems that Tvplist has had many wonderful cyber sex experiences, alone and with her husband.  Therefore it is no surprise that her opinion on the matter would be, go for it. 
 

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Conclusions

Completing this assignment allowed me look at newsgroups from a different perspective.  It was interesting to examine the interaction between individuals communicating within a newsgroup.  It was surprising to witness the number flaming that took place.  At times some individuals were rude and obnoxious.  I found it amusing at first, but later found it very annoying.  Others were considerate and took the time to help people answer questions regarding the newsgroup topic.  Some gave support to those needing comfort.  It was a great experience to witness the various behaviors that occurred between the participants. 

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Suggestions

  -  Take Professor James' advice and start EARLY. 
  -  Give youself at least three weeks to complete this report.
  -  Need some ideas on how to structure your report?  Look at reports by previous generations.
  -  Don't stress.  Relax and enjoy examining people's behaviors in different newsgroups.
  -  Beware, this report is time consuming.  Just take it one step at a time. 

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