Attitudes Driving Newsgroups: 
The Rage of the '90s

Table of Contents 

 


 


Instructions for this Report

Advanced Drivers Safer?

Courtesy

Safe Driving's Biggest Enemy

Police Tangle with Road Rage

Problem: Old Drivers?

Attention All Speeders!

More Women with Road Rage?

North Americans Can't Drive

Pull Over, Its the Law

Asian Drivers, the Worst?

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Advanced Drivers Safer?

Subject: Re: Are advanced drivers statistically safer?

Date: 18 Feb 98 16:03:02 GMT

 

And some more.... Research evidence shows that attitudes affect driving safety, but developing appropriate attitudes is not simple. It depends on recognizing that attitudes are important, and on making a personal commitment to change attitudes that are unsafe. Most drivers think they are both safer and more skillful than the average driver - but we cannot all be right. In more than 90% of traffic accidents, human error is the cause: Accidents do not just happen by chance, they are the consequence of unsafe driving practices. Driving safety cannot be thought of as an add-on extra: it has to be built into the way you drive.

It seems to me that a lot of these statements can also be applied to this newsgroup. A great number of the responses seem to consist of "no, no, I'm right, listen to me" type statements. Surely this is no different to "learn to drive you asshole - I am right and you are in the wrong" type comments / jestures that we all see (and do) when driving.

To go wider still, I think this is one of the human races biggest failings - not being able to admit that we might be wrong. Nowhere is this more obvious than when driving, or talking about driving. As the first sentence above states, developing these attitudes is "not simple". An understatement, if ever I saw one...... [Jamie]


Comments

Upon reading this article, I feel Jamie is trying to alert people that a change in bad driving behavior can only be accomplished if we acknowledge that we may be wrong sometimes. I strongly agree that most people do think they are right all the time when driving habits are concerned. I also think this leads to heated confrontations( i.e. road rage) which can end tragically.

Have you ever been cut off so quickly, that you slam your brakes, and the person who cut you off yells and gestures at you? If so, then you have experienced a driver who sports the attitude, "I'm right, you're wrong!" I would say that this type of behavior displays total disregard for other humans. It is an uncaring, selfish type of personality which is unfortunately becoming the norm these days. Perhaps this type of trait has something to do with upbringing? Maybe a person like this is just following an example set by a spouse or parent? In Freud's view, a person who acts in this manner may have had their "ID" win out in the Oral stage. They become expulsive, expressive and talkative! Ha ha. 

 


 

Courtesy

Subject: Who drives with courtesy?

Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 16:13:03 -0600

 

It's ironic that the last page of the California driving manual that each sixteen to sixty year old recieves from the DMV, ends with the phrase, "Drive With Courtesy!"

I think that one statement alone can sum up the problems with our freeway systems---the countless deaths, lost work time, traffic-wasted time, frustration, highway drivebys---plenty of driving but not a lick of courtesy. The manual doesn't even suggest what "courtesy" is! It just says do it!

Courtesy is a lot like love. It's thinking of others because you care what becomes of them (and yourself). Courtesy can be shown by allowing that car to merge ahead of you in heavy traffic and not anonymously shutting them off from entry, letting them wait for the next opening. Courtesy is driving for the car ahead of you as well as the car behind. Slamming on the brakes and riding someone's ass isn't courteous driving is traffic. Does anyone else have examples courteous driving habits? [Chow]

[ http://www.dejanews.com/ ]


Comments

Chow brings up a very important aspect to the curbing of road rage because coutesy will do it. Plain and simple, if everyone was courteous( no tailing, speeding, cutting off, slamming brakes, etc..) road rage would be non-existent or exist to a very small degree. But lets be real! There is always going to be one idiot out there who riles up everyone else. Chow wants all drivers to work together to rid our roads of rage and I couldn't agree more.

I feel that people get pissed off because after a long days work all they can think about is to get home and relax. Some drivers are willing to zig zag through traffic, not caring about what they do to others. The people who sit in traffic and take it get pissed off by the people who make a beeline for home. I feel that courtesy will not get rid of traffic jams, but it will make things flow easier and lower animosity levels of all drivers. Experts will say that the increase in violence among drivers can be tied to mounting traffic woes, TV violence, lack of values and the like. I guess that violence indicates our society now, and Chow wants to change that. It says a lot about the kind of person Chow is. He is a fed up, exhausted person who wants to change something dreadful, yet not the type to pick up a gun and kill someone.

I think that this personality trait of his is becoming rare. Nowdays, you find many people who want capital punishment, harsh sentences and are willing to give up basic human rights for the convicted. Chow realizes the problem, yet thinks about a solution which would not encourage more agression.

This can relate to Adler's ultimate stage of development because Chow is putting the society before his needs. Many people want an agressive driver to get a ticket and apologize to them. Chow wants them to realize their actions so they can fix themselves and not bother anyone else. 

 


 

Safe Driving's Biggest Enemy

 

Road Rage: Safe Driving's Biggest Enemy Get Mad. And get even. More and more people seem to be adopting this philosophy behind the wheel of a car - with dangerous, sometimes fatal, results.

Aggressive driving can appear in many forms: Refusing to yield the right of way; cutting other drivers off; speeding in and out on the highway to get there faster. Other drivers get angry. "Highway madness and road rage are the terms I use to describe repeated acts that cause physical danger to persons and vehicles," said Dr. John Larson, author of "Steering Clear of Highway Madness". "These driving behaviors greatly increase the chance of accidents."

In his book, Larson outlines a range of aggressive driving. "The first stage is where you get annoyed at other drivers, but keep it to yourself. Your anger is not transmitted to anyone outside the car. Next you might give someone the finger or call them a name. In more serious cases, you try to cut them off or pay them back. At the far end of the scale are incidents where people use their car as a weapon or pull out a gun," said Larson.

Newspaper headlines have long documented car-related highway gun violence in Los Angeles. But the trend is spreading. Fatal gunshots have been fired after roadway disagreements in regions across the country. Locally, in 1995, serious injuries were sustained by a motorist in Fairfield County, Connecticut after he was shot by an irate driver. Recently, actor Jack Nicholson was arrested after bashing in the windshield and windows of another driver's car, shouting, "You cut me off!"

American Automobile Association (AAA) statistics indicate that since 1990 there have been 1,500 reported incidents each year of violence between drivers. "Presumably, there are many more that are not reported," said Stephanie Faul, spokeswoman for the AAA's Foundation on Traffic Safety. "Many police departments do not have a box to check off on accident report forms for aggressive driving." As law enforcement tries to update its tracking mechanisms, psychologists and traffic planners are figuring out ways to ease tempers behind the wheel. The issue even started to make the rounds on the TV talk shows earlier this year.

Meanwhile, surveys conducted by AAA suggest that many people think aggressive driving is more of a danger on the roads than drunk driving (see side bar). "There is something in driving which allows people to live out personalities they might not otherwise show," said Faul. "You feel invulnerable and you're not dealing with other human beings, you're dealing with other cars." Larson adds that we have yet to develop our highway etiquette. "People have been walking on streets for thousands of years. We know how to do that without getting into fights. But cars have barely been around for a century. We still don't know how to get along on the road without resorting to anger," he said. Other experts insist our biological roots are to blame. In a British Automobile Association study last year, researchers suggested that territorial behavior was part of aggressive driving. They reported that 62 percent of drivers had been tailgated, 59 percent had headlights flashed at them, and 48 percent had received obscene gestures. Aggressive driving "probably does relate to a personality type," said Col. David Mitchell, superintendent of the Maryland state police. "It doesn't relate to gender. We see men and women, young and old, engaging in aggressive driving."

Traffic congestion may support the animal-aggression theory: When the number of cars vying for the same amount of road increases, drivers feel their space threatened and raise their hackles. Not surprisingly, regional variations in aggressive driving are reported. "In Boston and New York, people honk at you before the light turns green," said Robert Baron, professor of psychology at Rensselaer Polytechnic in Troy, N.Y. "In Indiana, one of our researchers sat in his car at a traffic light when the light turned green. We found the typical person in Indiana didn't honk for 10 to 15 seconds."

Larson outlines five types of aggressive drivers: The speeder, who wants to get from point A to point B as quickly as possible and will become enraged if forced to slow down; The competitor, who sees the speeder coming and decides to race; The passive aggressor, who blocks other drivers and doesn't let them pass or cut in; The narcissist, who takes a dislike to another driver because of race, sex or type of car; And the vigilante, who is going to make a violator of the rules pay. "Driving is really a communal activity - we all need each other to cooperate if we are to reach our separate destinations," said Larson. "The problem is that many people don't see it this way."

Aggression on the streets may also symbolize a more general pattern in American life: Everyone wants to get his own way. Now. "We aren't raised to be patient," said Faul. "I get angry at my computer when I wait for it to boot." Yet, say psychologists, the most effective weapon against losing your cool behind the wheel is counting to 10. Other tips to avoid losing your temper include:

ð Plan journeys to avoid rush hours.

ð Make sure your seat is comfortable, the windshield clean, and your radio tuned to a favorite station.

ð And if you storm out of the office or the house in a bad mood, wind down before starting out. "One thing drivers can do is plan for a little more time on the road," said Jeffrey Spring, a spokesman for the Automobile Club of Southern California. "Aggressive driving only nets them a few seconds of time. If they actually drove calmly and within the rules, the time difference isn't significant, but the potential for crashes and inciting other drivers is greatly reduced."

Larson uses his counseling skills in private sessions with habitual aggressive drivers and offers weekly seminars on avoiding the behavior. "My driving modification program seeks to get people to see the underlying context for their driving. If their attitudes and belief systems can be changed, their driving will be changed." Another basic tip - don't drive alone. "Single occupant vehicles are involved in most aggressive driving incidents," said Larson. Carpools and vanpools are the best modifiers of bad driving behavior, as the presence of co-workers in the vehicle will keep most drivers in line.

Empathy helps too. Someone who swerved in front of you without warning may be "having a bad day." But that isn't easy for those who find driving depersonalizing. "The person in the other auto becomes an object," said Michael Benjamin, a Washington, D.C. psychologist. "One of the reasons for the problem is that people tend to hide out alone in their cars - for many it's a refuge from their day-to-day life," said Bob Ouellette, Manager of Drivers' Services for AAA of Hartford. "If you knew the person in the other car, you would stop driving aggressively. You only feel like you can do it if you're dealing with a complete stranger." Faul added: "You don't think, 'There's a 37-year-old woman with three children who's worried about her husband.' You think, 'There's a Ford Taurus that cut me off."


Comments

The writer of this article is just trying to let the reader know about the rising problem of road rage. I found it a bit astonishing that some consider agressive driving more dangerous than DUI.    I have always thought of DUI as the most dangerous killer on the road. Perhaps road rage incidents are increasing!

I feel that the author leans toward the calming side preffered by many psychologists. I agree that it is the smart and proper method to deal with agressive drivers who have just "challenged " you, but I admit that sometimes I get so mad that I can't stop and count to 10. I would very much like to change that because I know that a certain person may retaliate with a gun or other weapon. Our society seems to be getting worse and worse. We all hear of freeway shootings and the like, yet many of us don't change our care-free driving habits. Perhaps we tend to deny that consequences will happen to us? I feel that this denial is a social norm which has been around a while. Maybe we really want to drive agressively and denying the threat of a person retaliating makes it safe. We use defense mechanisms all day and driving habits are not the exception. People don't want anxiety, yet when I drive agressively, I get anxiety of being caught by the police not retalation by another driver.  

 


 

Police Tangle with Road Rage

 

Friday, November 21, 1997

Road rage over the limit Police fighting escalation of angry drivers By JENN GODDU Canadian Press TORONTO

-- Road warriors need to park their anger. Ontario police are stepping up their efforts to stem the escalation of "road rage" by trying to identify and understand the causes and symptoms of the contemporary driving phenomenon. "(We're) certainly aware of an increase of aggression," said Staff Sgt. Mark Wolfe of the provincial police. "A lot of people become 10 feet tall behind the wheel of a car." Officers already answer calls where guns are involved, Supt. William Currie said. People will get out and kick each other's cars or threaten each other with baseball bats; officers have been assaulted or had vehicles driven at them. Currie put together a team of 18 specialized officers, called highway rangers, in August 1995 to enforce road safety. The officers already target driving skills and aggressive driving but now will also focus on a driver's mood or emotional state, he said.

Highway rangers spent two days in a seminar with members of the Addiction Research Foundation discussing the reasons for road rage. "Road rage is a societal condition," said Patrick Smith, director of the foundation's clinical research treatment institute. "It's very much a part of our culture." The pressure of aggressive drivers, traffic congestion or getting cut off contributes to road rage but it escalates when people make contact and engage in a "road war," he said. "It's important to realize you're playing Russian roulette any time you're engaging in any road rage activity," Smith said. Currie recommends avoiding eye contact with confrontational drivers and keeping the car doors locked and windows up. "Don't tell anyone off in a car because you have no idea who you're dealing with," he said.

The road rage epidemic is not yet as bad as in the United States where people will pull over and pull out guns, but Ontario police want to take action now. "We want to take the pro-active approach; we don't want to wait until it's too late," Wolfe said. International research has found that in 20 per cent of fatal accidents, the drivers were found to have been involved in agressive altercations at some point in the six hours preceding their death. Earlier this year in Vancouver two separate road rage incidents ended with a man dead and another man in hospital with head injuries.

People have to learn to be control their anger while in their cars, said clinical researcher Lorne Korman. Drivers will make mistakes themselves but are more likely to construe other people's actions as deliberate, he said. "We need to be more realistic," he said. "Motorists need to give others the benefit of the doubt." RAGE TIPS Police are focusing their efforts on preventing the escalation of road rage.

Some tips:

Never assume that an apparently aggressive act was intended.

Inhibit your own anger by taking deep breaths, keeping yourself calm or putting on relaxing music.

If you're being hassled by another driver, try not to react.

Avoid making eye contact.

Keep your doors locked and your windows up.

When stopped in traffic, leave enough space to pull out from behind the car you're following.

Try not to disassociate yourself from the people in the cars around you.

Pretend other drivers are people you know.


Comments

It is apparent by all means that all of North America is starting to experience road rage. I agree with the Canadians that taking steps to curb road rage now, before its a problem, is a good idea. Once again the author is using psychologists' means to try to avoid confrontations on the road. I think these tips are helpful, especially the one about act as if all drivers are someone you know. That is very true because you don't get upset at a friend if they cut you off. One, which is good is leaving enough space to pull out of the lane. This is in case someone gets out of their car or pulls a gun, but I think it may infuriate other drivers in back because the space would allow others to cut in and slow up the lane even more.

The Canadian society seems to be learning from other countries' problems with road rage. This is a smart plan on their part which reflects foresight. I see this as an individual trait because if it were a social norm, the U.S. would have seen road rage coming and stepped up efforts to curb it before it got rolling. This relates to the concept of self-modification and behavioral assessment because the Canadians have observed road rage incidents in the U.S. and self-modified their society to start dealing with agressive drivers. They have developed coping methods similar to the U.S. psychologists but adapted it to fit Canadian norms. 

 


 

Problem: Old Drivers?

Subject: Re: Old Drivers Cause More Fatalities Than Drunk Drivers

Date: 1998/02/02

Actually it is agressive sloppy drivers that are the main problem. I think there are many older drivers on the road that should probably not be, but in the the final analysis it is the speeder, stopsign ruuners and tailgaters that are causing us the biggest headaches.

The solution:

Just obey the traffic rules and drive defensively. It's True! Get the facts! Old drivers are more deadly than drunk drivers ... and for the same reasons! When you age, you lose your ability to see, hear, react and to be alert. You become an impaired driver! Get the facts about Gray Driving straight from the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. Join our public safety crusade in alerting people to the # 1 cause of deaths on the streets -Gray Driving. It is far more serious and deadly than drunk driving! Help us tell the elderly to " DON'T GRAY AND DRIVE "

[ http://www.dontgrayanddrive.com ]


Comments

Stephen is alerting all drivers that if you are old, don't drive because you are more of a hazard than drunk drivers. I don't agree with this article all the way because I know some seniors who drive better than some punk-ass 16-yr old. My grandfather is one alert person at the wheel. He doesn't drive 45mph in a 55mph zone, leave about 10 car lengths to the person in front or sit at a stoplight when its green. Actually he yells at other drivers, follows them and complains about inattentive drivers!

I think that many drivers blame older drivers for tying up roads, but that can also be attributed to many drivers thinking they are always right! The social norm is that seniors are dangerous because their senses are not as good. I have witnessed an old woman plow in to the back of a stopped moped, sending the rider in to the air. Luckily he wasn't hurt but maybe that lady should never drive again. I feel that Stephen exhibits transference because he blames all others but himself. It is not bad because it is a social norm, but he should acknowledge that all senior citizens haven't lost it yet. 

 


 

Attention All Speeders!

Subject: Re: Notice

Date: 1998/02/17

 

Effective immediately, anyone who passed me on Interstate 77 while I am doing the speed limit will be reported to 911 for violation of the speed limit. There are too many drivers who have road rage and they are making the road unsafe for me.

Have at it, Anthony. Please be aware that when you make your calls, that you are making the road unsafe for both yourself and the other drivers. So, while you're calling in to squeal on a speeder, report the unsafe driver on the cell phone (yourself) also.

[ http://www.tconl.com/~hartman ]


Comments

Anthony seems to be jumping to a brash conclusion here. First of all, is it right to go 55 when traffic is doing 80? NO! You are causing a hazard regardless if the speed limit is 55mph! Anthony is venting anger probably because he is frustrated with agressive drivers. He needs to look at his solution again and ask if its worth his life or car.

As for P.J., Its not hard to talk on a cell phone and drive at the same time. Isn't that what is kind of made for? This shows the frustration of society concerning traffic problems. With the drastic explosion of cars on the road, it doesn't seem surprising that many people are fed up. This frustration with traffic problems is definitely a norm for society. Who likes traffic jams? If anyone does I'd like to know why.

This frustration relates to K. Horney's ways to deal with basic anxiety. The third way is to move against others and this is exactly what Anthony is doing. He is creating a situation where he can "conquer" other drivers and punish them for blowing by him. Perhaps he feels a need for control or power, or maybe it is a way to deal with his fear of driving fast! 

 


 

More Women with Road Rage?

Subject: Women Drivers aka Road Rage

Date: 1998/01/31

It is my considered opinion that women drivers are the main cause of Road Rage. It is highly impossible to give someone the finger while driving with warty little knees, changing 3 lanes without signalling, talking on a cellular phone, slurping a latte, and hunting lipstick. So they scream at you and cuss a blue streak. Men drivers politely yield and try to get out of the way, slowing down and getting in the path of speeding dope dealers with UZIs.


Comments

What this author is saying is that women are bad drivers. He claims that they all scream and swear at anyone. I totally disagree with this statement because I have had run-ins with both sexes. In my experience, women don't even realize that they cut you off and therefore don't acknowledge. Men on the other hand do it, realize it then challenge each other usually in the form of racing. The author making these claims probably had an incident with a couple of women drivers which conditioned his thinking that they are the bad drivers.

I look at this as a personality trait of an individual. Perhaps he was raised in a very dominant male-oriented society where women take the rap for wrongdoings. The social norm is in the form of "women drivers are the worst," but why do more men(especially ages 15-25) end up in more serious crashes? I feel that our society tends to blame women more than men in crashes. I don't know the statistics but according to my mother who is a highway safety specialist, the 15-25yr old age group in men has the highest incidents of serious crashes. This blaming on women represents the defense mechanism of displacement. Perhaps the author feels less threatened by women than other men. He knows the retaliation and comments from other men if he "sells out." Therefore, he discharges anger on what he percieves as less threatening 


 

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North Americans Can't Drive

Subject: Driving Anywhere

Date: 1998/02/15

RE: ....Those idiots cause accidents and road rage........ I thought, those with the road rage simptoms are the once who were causing the accidents and needed therapy, not the other way around. Also, based on your lacking any logic defensive statmentes, I am certain you are one of them. Get help before you kill one of us up there. I know, it could be very dificlut for anyone to face one's own mental disfunctionality.

Kubus Puchatek North Amerivcans are not cut out for driving. Say what you will, but you wont find an Eastern European, especially Poliosh person driving 90 km/h in the express lane of the highway. Thats what North Americans do, and they wont get out of the way if you flash your lights and honk your horn at them. Those idiots cause accidents and road rage. And the worst is the moron who changes lanes and gets in front of you just to slow you down. How about the idiot who has his blinkers on upon coming to an intersection, leading you to believe he wants to turn right at that intersection, but he means instead to turn right at the next street. This is the defensive idiocy you see in North America.


Comments

The author in this article is bashing North American drivers. Simply put, he says that the worst drivers are in North America. I don't agree with this because when I went to Korea, pedestrians yield to big, semi-trucks. I had to jump out of the way of a truck carrying pipes because he blasted his horn and whipped around the corner when I had the walk signal. I thought the drivers in Korea were bad! The individual who wrote this is probably from Europe and is just not accustomed to driving methods in America. This why he percieves it as "bad" when actually it is just a difference in style. His attitude reflects the social norm in Europe but an individual trait in America. He needs to realize that we don't have the Autobahn here and adaption is the only alternative. As for his claim of drivers who cut in front and slow down, drivers who signal too early and drivers who don't move in the fast lane, I sympathize with him because I think its very irritating. This man exhibits a condition of blaming others for his misfortunes. He seeks refuge and anxiety release in condemning others but not reviewing his own actions first. He doesn't realize that this country is different and that the country will not change for him. 

 


 

Pull Over, Its the Law

Subject: Re: The Driving Rain

Date: 1998/02/08  

The safe and courteous thing to do is watch for a spot where you can safely pull over and let the jerk by. In fact, if there are 5 jerks behind you, it's the law. Slowing down is guarenteed to cause road rage.

That's great advice, when you're on a road with more than one lane going in that direction, or when there is room and visibility to safely pass. The reason I mentioned that this was on Hwy 12 before the 80 merge was to indicate that 1) we only had one lane in that direction and 2) it's very windy and mountainous right there, so the double yellow line is strictly observed. There was no way to let this jerk by. I was driving at the limit (55-60) and he was less than 10 feet from my rear bumper. How can I possibly give him the message to stop tailgating? [ Beth ]

 


 

Comments

Paul seems think that the best thing to do with a tailgater, is stop on the side of the road and let them by. Perhaps this maybe the only alternative on a curving, no-passing road, but I feel that it is too dangerous. First of all, the taligater may take it as a challenge and pull over right behind and start something. Secondly, what if someone sideswipes you as you are on the side of the road? And what if you have trouble getting back on the road and create a slow down? Then even more people are going to hate you.

Paul seems to me like the kind of individual who doesn't like confrontations. I don't either but tailgaters get me really upset and I may slow down even more until he passes me or gives up trying to make me drive faster(both work). Paul's personality seems to be unique in this sense because I don't know anyone who would do that. My mother, the highway safety specialist would say to slow down because pulling over is a hassle and very dangerous. I guess I've been brought up that way so my thoughts are biased, but I stand by what I said. Paul's theory relates to anger management because he probably counts to 10 when upset by an agressive driver. He also is smart and doesn't retaliate or try to incite the tailgater. He keeps his calm when confronted and lets insults or gestures blow away with the wind. His idea is good at avoiding possible violence, but I feel it endangers the person to a more likely cause of injury or death. 

 


 

Asian Drivers, the Worst?

Subject: Re: shaman From: shaman 

Date: 1998/02/18

Where's my cd? Boy! Are YOU from Indiana! Relax! Have a cappucino, dude? We do things different over here. You remind me too much of these californians with their rudenes and discourtesy. No wonder they freak over rain and they've even brought their damned "road rage" with them. They don't frive as bad as Koreans but they do cur corners and fail to signal like many asians do.

No! Certainly not all and in fact I've known a few decent asians who can drive but many drive like they're still driving on some dirt road in the middle of nowhere and aren't very civil in how they maneuver. Rather sad really. 

 


 

Comments

Shaman is bashing asians and how they drive in this article. The reason why I picked it was because it upset me. What is this asians aren't civil in how they manuever!? What type of statement is that? And what is this about asians driving on some dirt road!? I can say the same thing about farmers in the U.S. which are mostly non-asian. But I don't generalize that race has something to do with the way you drive. I know many asians who are superb drivers and Shaman's statement holds nothing!

This is the sad aspect of our society because racism still lives. I don't understand how an individual can be so shallow, that they judge people on what color their skin is. I know that Shaman may be asian because they don't explain their ethnicity but I feel it is safe to assume that they aren't judging by their statements. Perhaps they were raised in a prejudice home or derailed by some propoganda? I think of this person as a lowlife. A person who looks for others to blame because they cannot accept their wrongdoing.

Prejudice stems from many things; I don't know much of why prejudice occurs, but I feel that it is learned. When I was little, I had friends who were from many different ethnic backgrounds. That continues to this day, yet I have been asked,"why are you hanging out with him, he's not oriental." And I respond with, "so." 

 


 

Conclusion

For the future, generations can review my Newsgroups report to get a basic idea of what kind of topics to choose. They can improve on my work by choosing different font styles, colors and being more creative. Also, no procrastination! It takes way to much of your time. I've been missing barbeques, basketball games and parties. Also, pick articles that don't run three pages! 

 


 

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