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Number11BUS 01/29/01 8:16 PM RE: Poll Question: Answer once per day. Rate your rage today:
Dear Dr. Driving,The Poll Question Rate Your Rage Today does not
allow a new entry each day. I was able to enter my rating on my initial entry
into the message board with a "handle" and never since. ??? Is this a
glich?
ikibobo 01/11/01 12:55 AM RE: Poll Question
yep, i was pretty much raging today!!
DrDriving (Community Owner) 01/02/01 3:03 PM Poll Question: Answer once per day. Rate
your rage today:
Answer once per day. Rate the intensity of your rage on an 8-point
scale, with 1=hardly any and 8=maddening and stressful.Votes: 28
1 out of 8 (little) (3) 10.7%
2 out of 8 (2) 7.1%
3 out of 8 (9) 32.1%
4 out of 8 (1) 3.6%
5 out of 8 (3) 10.7%
6 out of 8 (6) 21.4%
7 out of 8 (4) 14.3%
8 out of 8 (much) (0) 0.0%
DrDriving (Community Owner) 01/02/01 3:15 PM Welcome
G14--Spring 2001
I'm welcoming the students of G14--Spring 2001. I hope this forum
will serve two purposes. First, to allow you to express your thoughts regarding
our course topics and to react to the comments of fellow class members. Second,
to gain experience in professional networking on an electronic board. The
instructions for participating in this forum are located here:http://www.soc.hawaii.edu/leonj/leonj/leonpsy14/g14forum.htmlDr.
James, Instructor of Psychology 409a, 409b, 459.
MsLacey 02/20/01 8:22 AM RE: Blind (?) Drivers!!
In several southern cities he traditonal cross walk has been
replaced by the all cross theory. All traffic stops and people can cross the
intersection diagonaly, straight, two corners at a time, what ever. It has
really reduced in the type of right hand turn accidents you are talkning about.
Number11BUS 01/27/01 1:24 PM RE: Blind (?) Drivers!!
Hi Daniel (1978 1.12.01), I often wonder if the drivers are blind
or have a mind-set of wearing "blinders" like the horses in traffic
years ago. It is as if drivers have a special thought process that tells them
they have more right to the same space I have to occupy. I am legally blind and
have difficulty negotiating traffic. I took special training to enhance my
safety by paying closer attention to my surroundings. Well, I'm more trained,
however, the drivers I share the crosswalks, driveways, parkinglots and
roadways with don't seem to be. I get very angry some time and only very
disappointed in my fellow-human most times. Because I pay close attention, I
have not been injured (yet). Because drivers don't pay close attention I carry a
level of fear most of the time I'm in traffic areas. Hypersensitivity? You bet.
I don't step off a curb until I am sure I'm the only one using that space.
Sometimes it causes me to loose the whole light cycle and have to wait for the
next one. Education to drivers to share the road. I would have thought Hawaii
could maintain that 'share the road' ALOHA, but alas, I have experienced the
decline of ALOHA on the road in the last 25 years. Even when you have the
right-of-way, first of all, be safe Danie1978. Regards,Number11BUS
mightymousesa 01/18/01 8:16 PM RE: Blind (?) Drivers!!
I know what you mean. I have had to walk, bike, ride a motorcycle
and drive during my stay here in Hawaii, and you are right it's not safe. I was
run over on the lower campus road crosswalk last semester while on my bike and
the driver only asked me if her car was hurt, then just said a quick I'm sorry
and drovew off never asking if I was alright. I was sprained and brused for 2
weeks. This time last year a girl was run over and died in Waikiki in between
Local Motion and Tony Roma's. Everyone is aggressive in their modes of travel,
but we need to be aware that the damage an aggressive driver can make is more
devastating than an aggressive pedestrian!!
DrDriving (Community Owner) 01/14/01 3:14 PM RE: Blind (?) Drivers!!
Hi Daniel1978,You need to provide details on how you rant and
rave. Read what I replied to snowhawaii, Landlord Rage Thread.Aloha,Dr.James
Daniel1978 01/12/01 10:28 AM Blind (?) Drivers!!
First off, Hello. My name is Daniel and I get around using one of
three ways: On foot, by bicycle, on the bus. Being a non-driver most people
would think that I don't feel road rage. Well, I DO!! Maybe it's because I've
got agressive personality.My rant for today is about cars making right turns on
red lights. The concept itself is great, no cars, no pedestriasns, why wait at
a red light for no reason? Unfortunatley, it does not always work like that.
I've been hit (Several times) by cars making right turns while I had the right
of way (Walk sign)
Number11BUS 01/29/01 8:52 PM RE: landlord rage
Hi Snowhawaii,Ants and landlords, or ants without landlords--both
are a bother. I do live in my own home and can't blame any landlord. My house
is clean, too! But I was invaded by black ants. I do mean invaded. Oh, they had
gotten into the kitchen through the window before and I has sprayed them away.
I washed the walls and kept the oil and sugar wiped away and the sink clear of dishes.
But, I found out there were different kinds of ants in Hawaii as I had never
experienced in any other local. The black ones are only really interested in
water source and a quiet dark place to lay and tend the eggs. One week before
my step daughter was to visit with her friend I opened the living room cabinet
and found, in the video collection (300 videos) a nest of ants that would not
quit. They had come in from outside on the cable for the TV and used the cable
to cross over to the cabinet and enter. There, with lots of dark, cosey, video
cassets to choose from, the invasion began. Now just what was I to do? I pulled
an "unfavorite" copy out and sprayed it with a bug killer. Ooops! Now
they were dead, but still in the video casset. I was angry enough to spit
nails! I had to toss the video casset into the trash--ruinted, not hope for it.
Now just what was I going to do with the other 299 tapes???? Desperate, I laid
them out on the carpet in the living room without the cardbord cases. It
covered the whole floor. No room to walk. I secured the cable to not touch the
cabinet with twist-ties and washed out the inside of the cabinet for the stray
bodies and babies. I fell like a murderer, but they were MY videos! Then I
noticed the ants were making a trail across the carpet away from the videos. By
golly, they were angry too. They wanted a dark place and I had interupted that.
It was the best feeling to see them marching off. The corner of the tape cases
were still dark though. I tapped the cases and watched them scurry. It felt
really good. Now I had the answer, tap, tap, tap, watch them leave. Only 7 days
to visitor day. Well, to end the story quickly, the full 7 days was spent
tapping and monitoring and then all the ants were finally gone. The drought had
caused them to come in out of the heat, the water in the houseplants has given
them all they needed to live indoors with MY videos. I had almost ruined the
collection by reaching for the bug spray. Now, I got the rhythum. They want
dark secure places...I would interupt the dark and the security with my
tapping. They left. I put the videos in another cabinet away from ANY walls or
cables. I won!! Now I just have to figure out how to get the tiny red ants that
sting from coming home in the grocer's onions. Persistence. I put them in the
refrigerator and they all died of exposure. Presented with a problem, be
observant, be patient, be persistent. It works with ants, it should work with
landlords (in a way). Maybe they will go away too?
silverfox2001 01/16/01 9:38
PM RE: landlord rage
Hi, snowhawaii like you this is my first time participating in a
forum like this on the Web. But I find it interesting that I have the same
problem like you about landlord. I too, have an ant problem toppled with floor
boards coming up all over my apartment and it is driving me crazzzzzzy that the
landlord is taking his sweet time in answering letters or setting an
appointment to come and look at his property. I have gotten to the point of
taking pictures of all the ants and floor boards destroying the place I live
in, that I definitely feel tenants like us are driven to rage against landlords
for slow to responding to tenants needs and hygeine problems!
DrDriving (Community Owner) 01/15/01 11:42 AM RE: landlord rage
An additional point:It's useful to examine the logic of our
expectations. In this case Snowhawaii is shocked that the landlord refuses to
be responsible for ants. Well, how else could it be? Is it even possible for
the landlord to control ants? How? Ants come and go looking for food. I've been
trying to control them for years and I can't make them stop from coming in from
outside. So my technique has been to keep all food and crumbs clean and away
from counters, dirty plates, etc. Even candy wrappers in the baskets--they go
after everything.Another thing I can mention is that I feel guilty killing ants
when it's my fault and I left food that attracts them. They are very eager to
go after the orange juice drops or the white of egg left in the dish or sink and
counter. But sometimes it's not my doing, like when they clean up after a dead
bug.aloha,Dr.James
DrDriving (Community Owner) 01/14/01 3:11 PM RE: landlord rage
To :SnowhawaiiFirst, about the ants: I control them by spraying
their trail with a spray bottle containing water and a little Peppermint Pure
Castile Soap (from the supermarket), which is very effective and not
toxic.Second, about your rage: Perhaps you can give more details. If you read
the Forum Discussions instructions, it says that you need to discuss your
feelings, thoughts, and acts or words or the affective, cognitive, and
sensorimotor domains.For example, I was at the supermarket yesterday and
experience shopping cart rage. I saw this man in one of the isles and he was
standing by the soup cans talking on a cell phone. So I waited for him to move
so I can get to the shelves. But he kept on talking and ignoring me waiting
there. So I felt irritated and little explosions of emotions and my mind was
screaming at him silently, Move man, move out of my way. I even fantasized
pushing his cart a little so he would get the idea. But I also felt guilty for
being so impatient. Finally he moved but I was upset for several minutes. I
kept asking myself Why can't people be more aware? Why am I so impatient?See
what I mean, Snowhawaii? I give details about thoughts and feelings so people
reading this can have an accurate picture of the situation. This is what I call
self-witnessing.Aloha,Dr. James
snowhawaii 01/13/01 12:33 AM
landlord rage
Hi, this is my first time to participate the forum on the Web.When
I found out I have to use computer a lot for this class, I got nervous because
I don't much about computer.However my new year resolution is "no more
procrastination", so I've decided to come to visit this site.As my title
shows, I'm really upset at the landlord of my room. When I moved in this room
on last Sunday, I found out there are so many aunts in this room. The room
wasn't cleaned up at all, so there might be some food.I killed more than
20aunts that day, and next day there were another aunts crawling up the wall. I
called to the landlord and claimed about aunts.Guess what he said? He came to
my room, and said, "I cannot control ants. You have to control about your
own room."I got mad because I just moved in and didn't leave any food or
anything. He's the one who is responsible for hygiene.Now, my day starts by
spray insecticide in the room.
silverfox2001 01/31/01 7:17
PM RE: Parking Rage
Nice going, I am so glad there are people that will think about
others when it comes to parking. I hope my community will be able to work
something out, because now we are going to the board of directors to straighten
out the parking mess we have in our gated community. Maybe, in the near future
I will have something to report.
Number11BUS 01/29/01 8:27 PM RE: Parking Rage
Skyblue,Our neighborhood has families with several generations
living in the same house. Parking is at a premium. EG:My neighbor on one side
has 7 vehicles. We have all carefully worked out the parking problem as a
community. We keep our vehicles in/on our property or
driveways/garages/carports. Then the Mayor gave us new rubbish cans that get
picked up by the automated trucks. What a mess! Now there is a mad scramble to
clear the curb-side two days a week so the automated truck can access the
rubbish containers. Now, more cars are parked in yards, side-yards, in
neighbor's driveways. But, we are coping. A commuter society and ohana
living--we just try harder to sort it all out. (Thanks Mayor?)
skyblue 01/26/01 4:24 PM RE: Parking Rage
YES! I can relate to some of your experiences with parking my
economy-size car at home. The street I live on in my residential community
don't have any parking borders, barely there sidewalks containing grass, and
about half of the homes have garages. The people residing in this community
knows one another by their names and faces. Our family has an open two-car
garage and a grassy area that can fit another vehicle on the side of our house.
When I come home, I usually park the car on the partially filled grass/pavement
area. My parking rage usually begins when I turn the corner to find young
children playing on the area where I usually park my car. What makes me more upset
is when they ride their bicycles in our garage. So I have to remain calm by
looking at them and using my turn signal to show them where I plan to park. In
the past, we've put up a chain to prevent the children from playing in the
garage. This approach didn't work because they would climb over the chain and
act as if they lived there. I get more irritated when other people choose to
park in our garage/grass area without first asking us permission to park their
automobile. These people are usually visitors coming to see our neighbors.
Several times, a huge and unfamiliar 4 by 4 truck was parked diagonally on the
grass, so this person wouldn't block our garage entrance. Another time, a guy
with a huge truck parked way to the side of our garage partially blocking the
entrance to one of our stalls. I realize this usually happens when no one is
home at our house. Some of the visitors also park their vehicle on the street
which takes up half of the area. If I'm turning onto my street and another
vehicle is driving in the opposite direction, I have to wait until the driver
passes by so my car will fit in the lane. I agree that some drivers haven't
learned to parallel park correctly. Unfortunately, some drivers don't care/show
consideration for parking in other peoples property. Some people also think
that they own the road! Yet, others haven't found a creative solution to
parallel park their automobile without considering the impact that property and
distance creates.
silverfox2001 01/16/01 10:34
PM Parking Rage
Have you ever had to deal with people who don't know how to park a
vehicle? Have you ever had to deal with people parking on your side of the line
and have no inclination that they are over the parking line? Everyday of the
week, I have to fight for a parking space in my neighborhood, because I cannot
park in my assign stall due to people not watching out for their children that
play in the parking area and the damages their children put on peoples cars by
playing ball, riding scooters and bikes. Just for fun, peoples children take
objects and scratch the paint job on your car in the parking area. I have
resided to parking in a larger parking lot due to the lack of parents escorting
their children to the playground in my neighborhood. On any typical day, I can
come home into our gated community and find cars that are not park in an
orderly way. For example, if you park on the left side of the street all the
cars should be facing left. However, in my community this is not the case. On
any given day, we have cars parked opposite ways, not within the lines of the
parking structure, parking sideways taking up to three car stalls to park their
automobiles and when they do parallel park it is up to 1/2 car length away from
the next vehicle so if you are trying to park a big truck like mines and all
the cars are parked 1/2 car length away from each other, you begin to rage
little by little until you just want to have that vehicle towed away. Once I
find my parking space in this mad house of parking my rage start to subside
until the next time I have to go out again. Then, it begins all over again
about the way people park. The aftermath of it all is that I don't feel like
moving my truck in fear that I will have to race around our community looking
for a parking space again. My psychological explaination for all this is that
either these people have never learned to parallel park or they just so afraid
of people parking next to them that they leave big gaps in between them and the
next car, that I have begun to rethink is it worth having a vehicle?
sakodash 01/19/01 6:36 PM RE: Morning Rage
Hi!! After reading your message I just had to laugh to myself
because I've had one too many mornings exactly like that. I too also feel that
once you've had a morning like that, the rest of the day just doesn't look too
great. I'd love to say that the stupid alarm just didn't go off but I know that
a lot of times that this happens I forget to set the alarm to the correct time
or I just shut it off without even realizing it. The most chaos time was when I
just set the alarm for the wrong time on the first day I was to start my job
teaching a bunch of second graders.
PHYRE2001 01/18/01 1:09 PM Morning Rage
Have you ever woke up in the morning, glanced at the alarm clock,
to only realize that the damn thing did not go off and your an hour late for
work!! You rush around the house trying to get everything in order to only get
more frustrated when nothing seems to be working with you. Well, this happened
to me once again this past weekend, before work. I had jumped out of bed and
realized that I was an hour late for work. I ran around the house like a
chicken without a head, and nothing seemed to be going my way. Everything that
could have made me more late for work than I already was, was actually making
me late for work. The water heater did not seem to be working, so I had to take
a cold shower, the iron was broken, so I had wrinkled clothes, and to top it
all off, my girlfriend forgot to feed the cats so they were following me around
the entire house, just getting inmy way. Finally I get myself to work, and the
words that you have dreaded all the way up to that precise moment, are spoken
by your supervisor,"Why are you late?" Like the answer really
matters, and that by some miracle you really do have some legitimate excuse,
time stands still for no one, and your still an hour late. You look at your
supervisor, well in my case, make a grunting noise and proceed to punch in for
work. You just dread the rest of the work day, knowing that it will be bad
because it just started off wrong. And to your luck, it does!!My psychological
explanation for this type of rage is that you end up setting yourself up. It
happens like an avalanche, just gaining more and more speed until it is rolling
down the mountain faster than you can handle. You know that your late, so you
have all this anxiety rushing through your body, that when you do get to
work,you still feel rushed. And, the entire way to work, you know your
supervisor will ask you why you're late, and you just don't want to be reminded
that once again, your alarm clock let you down, or you forgot to set it
correctly.
PHYRE2001 01/18/01 1:33 PM Supervisor Rage on YOU
I think of myself as a fairly aggressive person. I feel that I
have the right to get angry at someone for getting angry at me. I feel that if
someone proceeds to do ignorant things, then I have the right to feel annoyed.
However, I must admit that I am probably the person who usually gets upset
first, giving anyone who shares my mentality the right to also get upset.Well,
in this situation I was the one who stayed calm on the outside, but was
exploding on the inside. I recently started a new job about two weeks ago, and
am still getting the feel of how the system works. The other day was one of the
first times I had met my manager, because she was on vacation when I was hired.
My immediate supervisors were usually the ones that I had gone to whenever I
encountered a problem and could not figure it out. On this particular day
though, my supervisors were extremely busy, and I felt really bad going to them
with all these problems, so I proceeded to ask the manager. All she does is sit
on the back desk starring at a computer. During the entire eight hour shift I
saw her only get up to go out to lunch. Periodically through out the day I
would ask her questions concerning my tasks, and would always get a brushed off
response as if I was bothering her. Finally at the end of the day, I had one
last problem, which could be fixed with one push of a button, but it needed to
be done on a supervisor's computer. When I had asked her to fix it for me, she
started yelling at me and giving me attitude. She claims that I should have
asked one of the other supervisor, which at the time were extremely busy. I
just smiled, walked away, and went to another supervisor. Inside though, I was
boiling up with disguist. I wanted to tell that fat woman to get off her chair
before she broke it and help out her damn employees. I felt really disguisted
by the fact that she could not even help me out. The job is a continuous
learning process, and everyday you learn new things. So whenever employees come
across a situation they have never handled before, they would ask a supervisor.
I wanted to tell my manger off. I went home complaining to my girlfriend the
entire way. My psychological explanation for this is that it is not my fault!!
Maybe my manager had a bad day, or maybe she feels that you should figure
things out for yourself. But if you cannot help your employees, then maybe a
manager job is not right for you.
MadHatter808 01/22/01 4:09 PM RE: money and parents
Hmm, I understand a little of what you're going through. I'm also
trying to fund my own education though it's through loans from my mom rather
than a bank (as well as through part-time work). I plan to fund grad school
entirely through student loans in the future as well. Citibank offers a
Citiassist loan for any student who's looking to pay for their education of up
to $175,000 (that may be the upper limit for a four year degree program but I
think the limits go up if you're pursuing medicine or other grad programs).
Through all of the headaches concerning making ends meet, however, I feel that
I have grown to be more independent and financially responsible ( thoughI am
still trying to work on the latter through better budgeting). It seems that
with all you've been through, you are going to make it even if it means pulling
the purse strings a little tighter. Your dad, while he is your dad, is trying
to teach you a hard lesson, no doubt, and I think by your example, you are
proving yourself through and through and will still accomplish what you need to
in the end. There is more than one way to catch a fish! Good luck! :)
purple848 01/21/01 7:18 PM RE: money and parents
You have a talent for sport, and your extra hard effort pays your
tuition. Very few people can do that, and I respect you. I think your parents
are trying to tell you a value of money, such as how hard it is to earn. And we
need to appreciate money because we need it sometimes (not all the time) to
achieve things we need in our lives, and education is one of them. Of course,
you already know that while your friends of your age do not know yet. I am sure
you will hand down the value of money to your own children as your wonderful
and decent parents did to you. I really respect your strong will to be
independent, and putting your will into action.
mightymousesa 01/18/01 8:04 PM money and parents
I'm new at this forum thing so bare with me here. The idea is to
discuss rage, right. And our group is looking at rage in the workplace, right?
Well, I am a student athlete. My job is my sport and it is my sport that pays
my tuition, and my student loans, of a little more than 2,000 I might add, pay
for my entire existence out here in Hawaii. I have always prided myself on
making my way through college with little to no financial help from my parents.
But this semester I have research I am doing around the island and my expenses
in transportation are going to go up. So I finally broke down and called my
father to ask him if he could help me out if I get financially strapped towards
the end of the semester. Needless to say I got a lecture on budgeting rather
than a "I understand". Now this is not a poor pitiful me story, but
it is a rage story. I don't understand how some college kids get by spending
daddy's money like water for the six years it takes them to get through
undergrad and I can't get help during the final semester of my senior year!!!!
The reason I only get a little over 2,000 dollars in loans is because my
parents make so much money that I can't qualify for loans cause I am still a
dependent. AAAAGGGHHH!!! FRUSTRATION IS WHAT I AM FEELING. College is my
workplace, my sport is my job, but with little money to live on, I'll be
bringing more stress into the workplace if you know what I mean.
charisseo 01/22/01 3:05 PM RE: Traffic Accident (almost)
i can definately relate to your almost traffic accident. while
driving i try to be aware of my enviroment in hopes of not gettting into a car
accident. in my "almost" traffic accident experience, i felt a sudden
rush of anger. i can not expain the actual feel, but it is almost as if i am
literaly look for someone to blame. this blame is directed toward the other
indivual in the other car. in a situation where a traffic accident almost
occurs and it is the other party who is at fault it is easy, especially for me,
to first get angry and vent it through my driving.
DrDriving (Community Owner) 01/20/01 9:12 AM RE: Traffic Accident (almost)
This is a case of parking rage. Question: How did you beep your
horn? There are various ways, long-short, loud-soft. And when did you beep?
While she was moving towards you or away--this also makes a difference.Also,
what was the expression on your face? I recommend we smile and wave in such
situations. This allows you to retain control of the situation. If you show
anything else, you lose control since you don't know how the other will
react.Dr.James
carlisle 01/18/01 8:20 PM Traffic Accident (almost)
Hello there people. Have any of you guys been close to being in a
reck, and in your mind it was the other drivers fault? Have you guys
experienced rage in this situation and then have the other driver turn their
rage on you? Well, it happened to me. I was going home on nimitz hwy, near Dole
Cannery. When, this women pulls out of Zippy's into the left lane that was next
to me, kind of quickly. So in a fast response I beeped my horn at her. She did
turn into my lane alittle.Being scared by the fact that she did almost hit me,
I wanted to cus her out and stick my middle finger. But, the fastest response
that I did was beeping the horn. And in turn she stuck her finger at me, and
yelled at me through her window. She passed words, but I did not say anything.
Usually I would but, what was the sense.If I responded back to her I think we
would of gotten into a reck with another car. I just thought that it wasn't
worth getting in a car accident over something so peity. I suppose the
motivation behind me beeping the horn at her was, not wanting to hit, you know
that feeling of being scared or anxious. My heart did beat fast, and I did feel
kind of panicy. The motivation of being scared turned into rage. Does that make
any sense.
meow24 01/18/01 10:40 PM road rage
just a friendly reminder- this is my first time participating in
the forum discussion~I was driving home from school yesterday and I got really
frustrated and mad.It was afternoon and as usual, I was stuck for some time to
get out of the parking structure before I got to this intersection (sowie I
forgot the names of the streets there.. I'm really bad at memorizing street
names) where there I had to stop. Only the cars coming out from the highway had
the previlege of not stoping there. There were three stop signs including where
I was waiting for the traffic to clear up. Finally when the previlege lane was
filled up, three drivers(two others and myself) who were waiting for it to
happen got ready to go. Then a stupid car came out from highway and blocked the
middle of the street so none of the three cars could move. This airhead
couldn't leave a room to let other cars drive by. His lane wasn't moving
because they were caught by the red traffic light and I got really pissed off.
Three drivers from three different directions moved in closer to the
airhead(please bear w/ me. I'm still mad at this person)'s vehicle, but none of
us were able to cross the intersection. When the cars finally started to move,
a driver from the other stop sign gave me a sign to go first. So I wave my hand
saying thank you and then moved my car closer to the airhead and honked at him
and gave him a look(I tend to do this alot when I'm mad). Too bad he wasn't
looking!I was so mad at this guy that I couldn't calm myself way to home and it
resulted aggressive(meaning fast) driving.I don't understand why he couldn't
leave some space between his car and car in front of him. It wasn't like three
cars in the stop signs were gonna get into his lane. We were all going to
different directions and wouldn't have even delay his trip. Why couldn't he let
other cars go by while waiting for the traffic light to turn green? Thanks to
him three other drivers also had to wait longer and got mad at him.One thing I
learned from this is that I should always let cars pass by and not block the
intersection while getting stuck in the traffic. I'm usually careful about
these things and always try to leave enough space for other cars to pass by,
but now I know this is a must to do.
sakodash 01/19/01 6:19 PM Bookstore rage
I hope I'm doing this right... :)I'm taking this one class at night
that for some reason or another, the bookstore doesn't have enough books for.
On their computer they had six still in the store (or so it said) but yet NO
ONE could find the books anywhere. So, myself and two other classmates special
ordered books on the first day of school. We were told that we would get a
call. Well, it's two weeks into the semester already and we've bascially been
desperately trying to get our hands on this book. Finally, yesterday I called
the the bookstore to ask them what's the status on this book. The girl tells
me, "Oh, we have nine on the shelf." I was just like WHAT!! I then
started complaining about how come nobody even bothered to give any of us a
call to let us know that the books had come in 3 DAYS AGO!! I was so angry after
hanging up the phone with this girl. But then I started thinking that this girl
probably had nothing to do with any of this and it was more the fact that she
just sounded so happy and cheery while here I was just having an absolutely
terrible day. I blamed the fact that I had to catch up on something like 200
pages on this innocent girl when I could've just gotten my books a little
earlier. Ironically, my other classmate had left me a message only about five
minutes after I called the bookstore telling me she just called them too and
ended up chewing them out for not calling us.
virtual-b 01/20/01 11:43 AM drdriving's website
the website albeit informative is very overwhelming. wading
through all the links can be frustrating. especially for a student who relies
on computer labs on campus to his or her work because time there is very
limited. --- On the topic of road rage, I just encountered an incidence of
aggressive driving today. I live in Kalihi, which is currently in the news
because of the elderly victims trying to cross King street. The Department of
Transportation just put in a new cross walk this week. However, I still saw a
driver beep his horn at a pedestrian just because the lady was still in the
cross walk when the light turned green. It reminds me of that "drive
alive" commercial. Waiting a few seconds would not hurt drivers, but for
some innate reason we always want to be at our destination right now instead of
a bit later.
sakodash 01/23/01 12:48 AM RE: library rage
I hate when that happens!! I hardly ever study in the library
anymore because I remember one semester during finals time I was in Hamilton
library late at night. I was sitting on these couches with all my books and
papers spread all around me only because nobody besides my friend was even near
us. Then all of a sudden a whole bunch of people came and sat down all around
me talking to each other not using their "quiet voice." After
listening to them talk I found out they were from the mainland visiting Hawaii.
For that fifteen minutes my friend and I kept staring at them with that annoyed
look on our faces which we thought they'd understand. I guess they were just
oblivious to the fact they were in a library. Finally my friend and I went to
the bathroom just leaving all our books there. When we got back not only were
there more of them but some were sitting where we were and one had even moved
my bag from the seat I had saved for myself! I just lost it then!! I was like
this is a library, people are trying to study, can you guys leave if you're
just going to talk. They gave me this look like what did I do wrong as if they
didn't know why I was so pissed off. I know I could have just moved but I
refused to lug all my books to another floor where it's freezing cold just to
get away from these irritating, insensitive people. Sorry it was so long!! I
got mad just thinking about this all over again...it happened like three years
ago!! :) Thanks for sharing that, I thought I was the only one getting pissed
off at people in the library. I guess I just don't know how to ignore people
and tune them out.
snowhawaii 01/20/01 3:02 PM library rage
Shocks! I've finished typing this, and clicked on post not
ralizing internet was cutting off. So all I just wrote was dissapeared. Here I
go again.Since I'm taking this course and get a chance to think about my rage,
I realized how easily I can get upset, or angry sometimes.The other day, I was
studying at library as usual. I had a seat which nobody was sitting around, and
started reading assignment. But shortly after two girls came and had seats
right behind me. As you can guess, they started talking. Of course it disturbed
me. They opened the book, and looked reday for study. But they never started
studying, instead, kept talking.I gave them glance a couple of times. It's the
sign tells "you guys are disturning me! Be quiet!" One of them saw
me. However she didn't stop talking. She was supposed to tell her friend,
"we're disturbing other people. We should stop talking." But it never
happened.I got upset because they ignored me despite they realized they're
interrupting me. I still waited till they stop talking. However they kept
talking and talking. I tried to calm down, but my anger hightened and I was
really frastrated because I already wasted more than half an hour because of
them.Finally I slammed the book expressing my anger, and moved to another seat.
I still could hear they talk.I was mad, but after a while I questioned myself.
Maybe I could tell them to stop talking or to talk outside. If I chose the nice
way of talk, I wouldn't make them feel bad and they would understand. Or maybe
I could move to another seat immediately, and I didn't have to waste time by
being upset. I also distrbed another people by slamming the book.Once I thought
this way, I felt bad. I admit I didn't have enough courage to tell them to be
quiet.
Daniel1978 01/23/01 5:46 PM RE: walmart
YES!!! I feel your pain!! I've got a little sister who's four
years old. She does not use a stroller anymore, but she's still too young to
walk on busy streets without holding my hand. While walking down the side walk
with her, people never seem to move. I mean, we don't take up the whole side
walk, just the right side of it! Why do people feel the need to plow down the
middle of the side walk? Is it because they are bigger than she is? I doubt
it... This situation usually leaves me feeling angry. I usually dismiss it
laughing about sidewalk rage. I actually hit some one in France who stepped on
her in an empty sidewalk. I don't know what the psychological explanation for
this type of incident. They may not care, or had a bad day at work, or unaware
of the world. I don't know, I just wish people would be more considerate
shaun56 01/22/01 12:03 AM RE: walmart
Hey!! I know exactly what you went through. Almost every week, my
girlfriend and I go to visit the Mililani Wal-Mart. Wwe do a lot of shopping
there due to the roll back prices. Anyways, anyone who has been to wal-mart
knows that it is a zoo 24-7 there, and your due to run into cart traffic jams.
Evertime we go there we have to weave in and out of people just to get around.
I get a little pissed at how people have so much curteousness to park their
carts in the middle of the aisle when they are checking an item out. It's kind
of funny though because you never notice when you do it yourself!?!? Thats how
it goes I guess, but we should start to realize that we do the exact things
that piss ourselves off huh! Later...........
Dahlin 01/20/01 5:00 PM walmart
Today, my mother, infant daughter and I went to Walmart. We were
in a rush and just stopped in to buy a birthday present. I was pushing my
daughter in her stoller which requires a little extra room to move about. Everyone
seemed to be totally indifferent to my special need for extra room. Whether it
was in the aisle or between the racks of merchandise. I felt like ramming those
people with Isabella's stroller. I felt like yelling "Get out of my way,
don't you see I have a baby to get through!" In the end a merely asked
each person politely "excuse me" and after they moved I thanked them.
My iritation did not last long. By the time my mother and I were in line I was
not bothered by my seemingly inconsiderate fellow shoppers any longer.
MsLacey 02/20/01 8:26 AM RE: Dorm mate rage
Remember, her poor planing does not constitute an emergancy on
your part. If she needed to do laundry for work she sould have done it earlier.
carlisle 01/23/01 6:59 PM RE: Dorm mate rage
I empathize with what you are feeling. I roomed with my bestfriend
from high school, and we both thought that we would be able to get along. But,
boy were we wrong. I am a neat freak, and she wasn't. Well, everytime I would
clean up the dormroom she would come home and mess it up again. The things that
ran through my head like, "god what is she a fat slob," "does
she not have a considerations for me."I would ignore her the whole night,
and sometimes for a couple of days. That is how bad it got. We wanted to kill
eachother at the end of the year. We survived but, our friendship didn't. I
have one advice for you, rooming with best friends could be a blast because you
guys have so much in common. but, those things that you have in common can tear
you guys apart. It happened to me and it happened to some of my other friends.
This may not be you though.
PHYRE2001 01/23/01 10:13 AM RE: Dorm mate rage
I totally understand and agree with what is being said about
roomates. I don't understand them, and I am not about to take the time out to
understand them. I think that when you live with someone for awhile,
considerations for their feelings no longer exists. This use to happen with my
roomate before I kicked her out. She was selfish, being able to use all of your
things, but when it came to borrowing something of hers, it all of a sudden
became an inconvienience. She would complain about the house being messy, but
she would never clean up after herself. I really hope she did not think that I
would clean up after her. I think that in your situation, your roomate should
have handled the situation better. She could have nicely asked you if she could
use the dryer since you were already in use. Or she could have avoided the
entire problem by saying to hell with the rules and dry her clothes at
midnight, when you were done. All in all, I think you had the right to feel a
little rage!!
MadHatter808 01/22/01 4:19 PM RE: Dorm mate rage
It is sad that we can't all just get along... I feel sorry for you
and am glad you were able to tolerate what happened and not blow up at her. I
like what one of the respondents said about your email, namely, that because
you know you have to live with this person, it's best to try to get along.
There was also the suggestion of compromise which I believe is the key here.
Being able to suggest ways to better live with each other in harmony would help
the both of you and perhaps future roomates from encountering harmful
conflicts. I think everyone deserves that and can work toward it. Maybe you all
can hold a meeting and decide on what's "fair use" of the washer and
dryer and post the hours in the laundry room to remind everyone. I hope things
get better! :)
mightymousesa 01/22/01 2:53 PM RE: Dorm mate rage
Believe me, this problem is not restricted to the dormitories and
roomates like yours. I live in an appartment in Waikiki and we have a set of
coin laundry washers and dryers on the main floor. It never fails that every
time I do my laundry someone pulls it out before it is finished.Part of this is
my fault because I don't sit in the laundry room the entire time my wash is
running, but I still hate it that someone thinks that they are entitled to
remove my personal property before my time is up. So finally last week I got sneaky
and did my laundry like normal. I sat and watched the dryer ready for anyone to
dare and take it out. Everything was going fine until I had to go to the
restroom located beside the laundry room. As I came out I witnessed a fat old
woman taking my clothes out of the dryer and tossing them on the floor. I could
not believe it. I just stood there with my jaw open. But with all the rage I
was feeling I couldn't say anything, I was speechless. She tossed her clothes
in and pushed by me like I wasn't even there. Not only did I feel major Rage!!
but also like a big loser for not saying something!!!
silverfox2001 01/22/01 9:35
AM RE: Dorm mate rage
I can really understand the rage you are feeling when it is your
turn to use the washing facilities. I know what it is like to have room mates
that are in considerate of your time and effort in trying to get your things
done. I feel she should have consider the fact that this is dorm and whether
she likes it or not you were there first. She owes you an apology for her
actions of rage and if she knew that she needed her clothes for work the next
day, she should have allowed herself allotted time for it to be washed and
dried. Or she could have considered washing it by hand and hanging it up to be
line dry.Just a suggestion:Maybe all your dorm mate can designate a day for
washing clothes so this kind of incident will not happen again.
snowhawaii 01/21/01 9:40 AM RE: Dorm mate rage
I really can understand your rage at your dorm mate.I had troubles
with my roommate before too.It's difficult to live with somebody in a same
house except your family or close friends.In your case, I think your dorm mate
is selfish.Once you let her do whatever she wants, she won't realize how
selfish she is. As you said, the things are to be shared, so she should
understand that first. She could ask you politely if she can use the drier
first because she is in hurry. In that case, you would readily give it to her,
and both of you didn't have to be upset.If you talk nicely especially when the
oponent is upset, thing goes smoothly. By doing so, she can be cool down. The
worst case is when both sides got mad. You have to face the person again as
long as you live together. So just try to think this way. Actually I have to
try this too. You know, it's easy to tell somebody, but it's hard to put the
idea in practice.
purple848 01/21/01 4:49 AM Dorm mate rage
It was last week that after I put my laundry in the driyer, one of
my dorm mates came after me. She told me angrily to remove my clothes from the
drier because she was going to use it first. She said loudly that she needed to
dry her clothes to wear the next day for work. I got very upset. I didn't tell
her, but I said in my mind, "Who the heck you think you are?"
"What about my money I already put in the machine?" and "The
washing machine and the drier are for all of us to share, not yours." But
I remembered our dorm rule that we cannot do our laundries after 10:30pm, and
it was already 10pm then. I realized that it could be her last chance for the
day to do her laundry, so I told her that I would collect my clothes, even
though I was still in a fume. I tried not to show my anger to prevent having an
argument with her. Then I went to the drier and saw it had already been stopped
by her. I got really upset because it means she didn't give me a choice! It was
hard to calm down my heart beating so fast by anger. Living with other people
in the same place can be a pain in the neck when things like this happen
sometimes.
ddestrad 01/25/01 5:14 PM RE: slow driver rage
In response to slow driver rage, I can definitely relate to that.
I think that slow driving is just as inconsiderate and dangerous as someone
weaving in and out of cars. When a line of cars are driving at the same speed,
hypothetically we'll say the exact speed limit, and everyone is going with the
flow of traffic, it is really dangerous to approach a car going slower then the
legal limit, it endangers the drivers and puts everyone in a state of annoyance
and anger, exspecially if it is a one lane road and you can't pass them. I
think if a person doesn't feel comfortable to drive the speed limit or to be on
a main road that they should pull off to allow the other people to pass instead
of making it harder on everyone else. I get really furious driving behind those
kind of people, I find that tailgating doesn't always work out, a lot of people
i know tailgate people and try to get them to speed up or they flash their
highbeams and honk their horn. I think that is going a little to far but they
should also be considerate of others.
shaun56 01/21/01 11:54 PM slow driver rage
Yesterday I had a lot of errands to run before my soccer game. I
had a bunch of things to do that had built up from the previous week;
therefore, I had a bit of stress built up along with it. Anyways, I was going
to pick up food for our potluck after the game, when I found myself stuck
behind a slow driver. I was on a two-laned road and it just so happened to be
occupied with two slow drivers in front of me. I was already running late, and
I was definitely not in the best of moods. These two drivers were going 10 mph
below the posted speed limit, which was 45. In my head, I was thinking that
they were doing this on purpose, but I really knew that they weren't. I had a
bit of rage, and wanted to act upon it, but chose not to. Instead, I took a few
deep breaths, and told myself to reeeeeeeeelax!! It also helped me to relax
just knowing that the only person who made me run late was myself. That was
obvious from my late awakening! That's that and that's past!
shaun56 01/22/01 6:47 PM RE: Maximum Over Drive
Hey I've got to tell you some things that have been blowing my
mind lately. I've noticed that (in my point of view) most of us have probably
not thought about any of rage madness until we ran into this class. As for me,
I knew I had ran into rage on the road, but I never realized that it occured
almost everyday (under close supervision that is). Wow, a singles stimulus
(this class), can sure control the way one thinks huh! I can't believe that us
humans have so much rage contained in us, it's unbelievable. Anyways, on your
exerpt, I see that kind of stuff happening almost everyday. It's so crazy to
watch it through different eyes now huh! I think it is actually cool to monitor
ourselves as well as others. Well, just wanted to share my thoughts with a
silverfox!!!! Later gator!
silverfox2001 01/22/01 9:58
AM Maximum Over Drive
Yesterday, was the day for people to go into accerleration of
maximum over drive. I saw more cars speeding and getting into near accidents
then any other day of the week. It seem as though they were in such of a hurry
to get just a few miles down the road. One example, was on the way to Pearl
Ridge, the driver of a BMW was in the right hand lane and trying to cut over to
the left hand lane so he could pass the car in front of him. Because the driver
in the front of him made a sudden stop, he started swearing and beeping his
horn and went into a rage that he decided to follow the driver into the parking
lot of Anna Millers, where both of them got heated under the collar and started
to mouth off at each other. The both of them got into their cars and sped out
of the parking lot into on coming traffic.After witnessing this type of road
rage, I felt nothing was solved except now we have to angry drivers on the
road. The psychological point is that it could have been avoided if the guy in
front of the BMW had his blinkers on before turning into the parking lot and
the BMW driver was not in the mood of speeding up, slowing down and looked for
ample time to change lanes. All this confrontation could have been avoided and
we would not have to angry drivers on the road.
ktootree 01/25/01 8:25 PM RE: public
telephone rage
I feel your pain…or should I say rage. I have been in several
similar situations and it gets me upset too. You would think that when the
person using the “public” telephone sees a line of people waiting to use the
“public” phone, that they would end their call as soon as possible, but I guess
for some people, they weren’t raised with manners. Those kinds of people need
to have consideration and perhaps put him/herself in your shoes to discover how
it feels to be on the “forever waiting” end. By the way, did you react in any
way? How was your body language? Did your facial expression show any rage?
Watashi_No 01/22/01 6:45 PM RE: public telephone rage
I remember when I experienced telephone rage. I was in highschool
and I had to use the telephone. School had just let out and I was wondering
where my ride was so I could go home early, if he would be later than usual to
pick me up that day. So one of the few working public telephones in the school
was being used by another student and the telephone next to it was broken. I
just waited thinking that she wouldn't be talking too long, and I knew she saw
that I was waiting to use the phone. Five minutes went by, then ten minutes, I was
getting frustrated because I knew she saw me and she still would not get off
the phone. I guess I wasn't thinking straight because I could have gone into
the office to use the phone after five minutes, but instead I waited. Needless
to say I told her off and walked into the office and used their phone.
charisseo 01/22/01 2:56 PM public telephone rage
While at Ala Moana over the weekend I experienced a kind of rage I
did not know exsisted, public telephone rage. With my cell phone battery dead I
had to wait in line to use the public telephone in front of the center stage.
With four working phones I did not think that the line for to use the phone
would be to long, I was wrong. The four people who were using the phone all
were clearly aware of the four people waiting in line to use the phone. Yet
each phone user took their time and on the phone. It took me a total of
aproximently ten minutes for me to finally use the phone. throught this
experience i was reminded of how inconsiderate people could be to other people.
leis 01/28/01 9:49 PM RE: making ends meet
I can also understand your frustration. Having materials and money
sometimes make us feel fantastic, don't they? Having a certain amount of money
make us help in such a capital society. And they make your family and friends
might be proud of you. However, I think primarily important thing is that you
become satisfied with yourself. Then, you might be able to make others happy.
If having money make you do so, I recommend to find a good way and make an
effort to earn money at first. But I would say it is nonsense you stick in a
conventional issue. I hope you find something wonderful which makes you
exciting.
skyblue 01/23/01 12:35 PM RE: making ends meet
I understand your frustration of not having all the material goods
in this world that money can buy. Based on my own personal experience, I am
raised in an Asian household where at times I've felt the need to prove to my
family and friends that I can afford luxuries. Indeed, there is also the
stereotypical view that all Asians have lots of money which I think that not
everyone fits into this category. My advice is to not dwell so much on this
issue, but to be frugal with your money (eating at restaurants less often,
spending money every weekend, making a lavish purchase, etc). At times, I wish
that I could have an abundance of wealth so I could purchase many things.
However, I've had to sacrifice my social life at times and let go of the
temptation to spend more money. The last sentence of your story is an excellent
reflection to remember.
TeaTime 01/22/01 3:17 PM making ends meet
I guess I get more frustrated than anything about not having enough
money to do what I want. It's not a super rage, but sometimes when I know I
want to do something but can't because money's too tight, I can be very
childish about it (like "why can't I do or have that too?). It's all based
on greed I know (like greed for experience, greed for the power that money
represents etc.). Usually after thinking about it some more, I don't feel so
bad because I know there's much more to life than just money. I guess when
you're raised in an Asian household (at least in some that I know), there is a
lot of emphasis placed on succeeding in life which includes making a lot of
money. I don't see dollar bills as a measure of a person's worth so know I have
to reflect on that so that I don't allow it to be a measure of my own.
AnimalLover 01/30/01 9:28 PM
RE: my friends
road rage
I know how you feel. I've just begun driving so I have been the
passenger for many years and one of the people I've been a passenger of is my
sister who is a crazy driver without even being angry. She feels that she is a
good driver and I'll give her that because she is a natural driver with very
fast reflexes, unlike me. One thing she does have is a major case of road rage.
She gets irritated very quickly and with many people so she honks and yells a
lot at people and she loves to cut them off if they're driving too slow.Just to
give you another example, when we were on the big island once she scared the
heck out of my friend and me. We were running late and there were about three
cars stuck behind a big truck that was driving slow. Well, my sister's patience
wore off and she overtook all of those cars and pulled back into her lane just
in time to miss the oncoming cars. My friend and I seriously thought we were
going to die and all my sister could do was crack up laughing because of our
reactions.
ddestrad 01/22/01 3:22 PM my friends road rage
Over the weekend, I hung out with my friends girlfriend(who we'll
call "Danger"). We all went to a party and during the course of the
night, my friends girlfriend and him got into a fight, and he broke up with
her. She was very upset, and said she wanted to leave to get cigerettes, so i
jumped in the car with "Danger" and i brought my friend Jeremy along
for the ride. Of course i didn't think it would be a ride into hell. Once we
jumped in the car, she started fuming about how upset she was, so as a mediator
i had her talk about what's wrong and to vent to me (wrong thing to do). So we
are driving through honolulu on side streets at...ummm 60 MILES PER HOUR!!!So
she's whipping it around the bends, screaming, yelling, cutting off people,
hanging out the window cursing people out, punching her steering wheel, honking
her horn, basically she was pissed off and i have no idea what possessed me to
jump in the car with the girl because she was crazy-angry. So during all of
this i thought, well this would be a great example of road rage and i will have
to post it as a discussion(if i make it out of her alive), during all of this i
wasn't going to stop and ask her to tell me her emotions or ask her how she is
feeling, because actions surely speak more then words. So as a bystander i'd
say she was very mad and it was a result from my friend breaking up with
her(which i'll thank him for later, because i endangered myself and my friend
jeremy in the backseat) So that was the context and the event, the aftermath
was, we survived the trip,went back into the party and i chugged a few beers(a
celebration of life), and talked him into reconsidering breaking up with her,
because she was very upset by his actions. My psychological explanation was
that i was scared because she is nuts when she is angry, and my explanation of
her is that "Danger" is one person that should never be pissed off,
nor ever behind the wheel of a car, because she does not know how to
effectively release her anger in a non- destructive manner.
TeaTime 01/22/01 3:30 PM brat rage
I'm tutoring two kids, one of whom is a real brat. I love him
dearly, but he will push everyone's buttons to get his way. It's very amusing
and distracting at the same time. The first day we met, I nearly yelled at him
because he was trying to get his way all the time. I got angry because I feel
kids should learn how to behave when young so they can develop better habits
when they are older. I also did not want this spoiled brat to think that he
could get away with acting that way on the very first day and set the tone for
the rest of the time we were to spend together. He's a great kid, very bright,
really, but sometimes when they think so much of themselves because they have
everything they could ever ask for (i.e. the classic case of being born with a
"silver spoon in your mouth"), they think the world is their oyster
and will act like little tyrants... in some ways, I can relate because I was
very naughty too but not really as bratty.
purple848 01/24/01 11:20 PM RE: bathroom rage
Oh, no! Poor you that you had to go to a concert that you weren't
too crazy about, and your friend took out on you because she missed a part of
the concert. I bet it could have been worse if you got upset at her attitude
toward you when she vented her anger on you. I have a similar experience as
yours. When my boyfriend got upset at a taxi driver's rude attitude, I tried to
speak to him because I wanted to compose him. I guess he couldn't hear me well,
he said "What?!" with loud voice. I got upset at him for raising his
voice at me like that. I said, "Hey, don't take it out on me just because
you're upset!" Then he got even more upset. Yes, as you can guess, we got
into an argument big time. Now I think that I should have left him alone until
he recovered his composure, and I should have known better not to do a thing
like adding fuel to the flame. I like your phrase "Inadequate toilets
equals bathroom rage." I want to be a person like you who can wisely back
off when in a situation that can be awful for both parties.
virtual-b 01/22/01 3:50 PM bathroom rage
A friend of mine dragged me to this boring concert recently. To her,
it was pretty good. However when she had to use the restroom, her mood quickly
changed. Apparently, the place was not adequately equipped with enough toilets
for the women. Women sometimes take a longer time, so lines quickly form
outside the restroom. When she came back to her seat, she was ticked off. She
missed a couple of songs that she direly wanted to hear and vented her rage on
me, being that I was a convenient outlet. Inadequate toilets equals bathroom
rage.
shaun56 01/22/01 6:30 PM Student to teacher rage
Well, it goes a little something like this: Today I had a class
right. I'll have to keep the class name as well as the teacher anonymous for
the utmost obvious reasons. I do not really want to get in trouble, and I sure
as hell wanna graduate so lets call him/her: Professor X. Anyways, I went into
the class expecting to have a grand old time. I really thought that professor X
was a nice person until today. I did my thing as we all did, but Professor X
seemed to want to pick on me, and only me. I was bashed totally after I did my
thing and got a little bit offended by Professor X's bad comments. I really
felt a bit of racism as well as sexism as the teacher adressed me in the ill
manner that they did. The rage grew throughout the rest of the period as
Professor X did not do anything of the sort to anyone else. I was sort of
heated but knew that the steam was to be blown somewhere besides where I was. I
endured it and kept the rage within. I know others of you have felt the same
thing before in your lives so please feel free to share! Anyways I gotta love
Professor X until the semester is over roght, RIGHT!! Peace out and peace in!!!
TVR 01/28/01 8:28 PM RE: Worker/Customer Rage